Originally Posted by
frogman
10 wheels was correct. Don't rely on eye contact. Been in too many mishsps at intersections at stop signs where there was mutual eye contact and the driver didn't really see me
ended up on the pavement. Now I always wait for them to cross the intersection before I go.
Agreed... "eye contact" doesn't really mean they have seen you... people have an odd way of looking right through cyclists. You need more than eyeballs to verify contact... a nod, a wave, something beyond just starring cold eyes.