saw a couple gunnars at the shop yesterday, none had braze-ons. rode a soma pacer- heavier than i was looking for, but it rode well. took out a masi speciale primio, thought the surly rode better. then took out the kona *****, and damn. but no braze-ons. rode a "handsome devil" and the masi cyclocross bike, and it re-affirmed that a cyclocross bike isn't what i want. now i am tempted to go and price the stanyan and the speedster it replaced. all i would need is a new set of brakes.