Originally Posted by
mstateglfr
Can you clarify what '
the seat tube is much lower than the front end' means?
Both frames have similar BB drop and are within a couple mm of on each other.
Do you just mean that the niner' top tube slopes more?
They are very different costs and different material.
To compare like material, there is a Carbon Renegade frameset too...
https://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/renegadeelite_frame.html
Yes, the Niner top tube slopes more. I have heard that a more sloped top tube will have more compliance. These frames are definitely worlds apart in cost and design. I haven't ridden a Jamis, but the RDO is pretty sweet, rides nice, and weighs a lot less than the Renegade steel. Does Jamis even sell that carbon frameset anymore? I didnt see that listed in their website.