I haven't tried logging in with https but, even if that worked ... if other users are experiencing such severe issues with logging in and there remain serious issues ongoing with administration ... at what point does the user experience degrade to the point where it is no longer viable as a platform for exchange of ideas or community? The only problem with 'here' as an alternative is the fact that BROL, for better or worse, had the bent focus nailed. This recumbent subforum is a catch all for all things ... bent. Will that 'chafe' going forward? What if some 'crank forward' mouth breathers want to ragchew on some aspect of that niche? Time will tell.