Just an FYI, looking at the photo that BobG posted, if you plan to use a handlebar bag or bikepacking handlebar harness, looks like the cables are not in an ideal place. A friend of mine had the older SHimano shifters that routed cables towards the middle of the bike, he used V brake noodles to re-route the cables downward so that they did not interfere with his handlebar bag. I think this photo is almost a decade old, those shifters are getting rare.