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Old 02-04-23, 08:49 AM
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Germany_chris
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Originally Posted by Flip Flop Rider;[url=tel:22790128
22790128[/url]]that place is tiny..no need for cars..U.S. is huge
IIRC the average car trip in the states was less than 6 miles.

Ive lived car free in MI, upstate NY, OH, and HI but utility cycling is better and easier here in Europe since it’s seen as a valid form of transportation. The Dutch still own cars and campers and the like, they invade Germany, Italy, and Croatia a couple times a year.

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