Originally Posted by veganbikes

I guess if that is what you want go for it.

In terms of e-bikes mine is probably 70lbs, whatever. It weighs what it weighs, two 625wh batteries, Rohloff E-14, front suspension, Bosch mid-drive...I am not trying to save on weight, reliability, durability and usability are most important. I want to be able to tour and get groceries and all that sort of stuff. Sure if I could get all of that down to 40lbs that would be great but that ain't happening in something reliable at least not for many years. Maybe in the future this will all get ultralight but batteries are unlikely to get much lighter and still have the same capacity and I don't want a less powerful motor or a less reliable 14 speed IGH with electronic shifting.