Originally Posted by genejockey

I hate to say this, especially as a suburban dweller myself, but the desire of everybody to live in a single family home with a yard in someplace with hints of the bucolic is A Bad Thing. Combine this with rigid zoning requirements that prevent the building of denser housing and you're doomed to mile after mile of Not City/Not Country, and it requires you going farther and farther to get to someplace that even seems remotely wild.

OR you end up with someplace like the Peninsula, where you can still get to semi-wild places within a single day's ride, but then housing gets so expensive that people like me can't afford to retire here.