Originally Posted by brawlo

Well, I went in and tracked down the post and lo and behold some of the comments are gone. You can see a comment thanking a couple of guys for their input, but the input is gone. I know it wasn't a glowing recommendation because I had a friend looking at getting one at the time and I pointed him to the discussion. Basically they aren't the stiffest things out there, and for the price, there's much better options. I will admit they do catch your eye though!