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Old 09-17-20, 09:34 AM
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mack_turtle
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It seems like Surly designs their frames with the assumption that riders are going to use and upright stem with a ton of spacers under it, so the sizing scheme probably fits in a conventional way. the long and low measurements are deceiving like that. my mountain bike is a Karate Monkey and I ride it with a low handlebar and a small spacer under the stem, but that works on a bike with a long suspension fork.
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