Originally Posted by tigrrrtamer

OK guys look, I was only trying to speak in cyclists terms... about the FEEL of the bike, damn it!

Using the same terms cycling pros and conoisseurs will use so they understand it... my intent was NEVER to satisfy metallurgists or mechanical engineers, but to speak with cyclists about cycling. If you want to know what the machinery handbook says, buy one, because if you don't have one you were obviously speaking way over your head.


I was talking about a frame starting to feel "soft and flexible"!!!
I don't give a flying *** about what is actually happening on the atomic structure level - that is not the topic of discussion here!

Remember, this is a cycling forum, not a metallurgy class. Do you understand the nuance???

Now stop being jerks and get back on topic!