Maelochs I ride with them because they are the fastest and I want to challenge myself, I don't have to agree with everything they do. Frankly most of the close passing is incidental and not intentional at all. The club rides with leaders have problems of their own... whenever you get 50+ cyclists together there will be something of concern its just the nature of the beast. Nobody is being a jerk on purpose. Ty Gene im trying to lose my belly. Larry sellers is that kid in the Big Lebowski who was stonewalling John Goodman.