Originally Posted by bulgie

Stop me if I've told this one before... OK I know I've told it and you can't stop me, bwah-ha-ha

Specialized Allez Epic lugged-carbon frames were a decent value, but a lot of them got warrantied for cracking where the chainstay bridge was glued in. It was the only (or one of the few) places that were just a glued butt-joint, no lug or fiber lay-up across the joint. They came up with a brilliant fix: They deleted the bridge. Epics with no bridge had the same ride as far as I could tell, and zero warranty returns for cracked bridge joints. And lighter weight too! win-win-win

Mark B