Tubeless Tires on Road bike. Yuck!
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Lordgun used to have the best price on them, but I see that they've gone up everywhere since the early spring.
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About those GP5K TL tires.... A word of warning regarding Continental GP5000TL Basically, they say that the tires are way too tight, to the point that they're discouraging the usage of this tire if you have carbon rims, due to fear of damage caused by excessive force on tire levers.
Well..... I have carbon rims, and I'm thinking of switching to tubeless when my current GP5K clinchers wear out. And since the TL version seem to be highly regarded and reasonably priced, I was pretty set on them, but now I'm having second thoughts. Does anyone have experience with both the TL and non-TL versions? I know my clincher tires are tight, but I can still mount them without tools.
Well..... I have carbon rims, and I'm thinking of switching to tubeless when my current GP5K clinchers wear out. And since the TL version seem to be highly regarded and reasonably priced, I was pretty set on them, but now I'm having second thoughts. Does anyone have experience with both the TL and non-TL versions? I know my clincher tires are tight, but I can still mount them without tools.
If the 25mm tire were equally more difficult to install than the 28mm was compared to the 32mm, I would agree they would be very difficult to install.
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I've put on at least 10 GP5000TL tires on three different carbon wheel sets. Tools were not required on the 32mm tires, but I did use plastic levers on the 28mm tires. The wheels were all Roval C38.
If the 25mm tire were equally more difficult to install than the 28mm was compared to the 32mm, I would agree they would be very difficult to install.
If the 25mm tire were equally more difficult to install than the 28mm was compared to the 32mm, I would agree they would be very difficult to install.
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For my last installs (GP5K TL) the 32 was harder than the 28, but I had had the foresight to have the 28 mounted on a spare rim for about a month where the 32 only had a few days to relax before using it for real. This was on Roval Terra C rims FWIW
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Lordgun still has the best price and they are in stock and have very fast shipping.
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I'm still trying to figure out the recipe for success with tubeless...
- Finish Line sealant wouldn't completely seal the punctures I had. My GP5000TLs would cry fluid and lose air pressure overnight.
- Peaty's sealant was better, but then I got a puncture in a 25c tire that didn't completely seal. I tried a Stan's DART on it, but that exposed another issue (the wheel I was sold had the wrong rim strip) and the whole system fell apart (deflated.)
- Now I'm using Stan's sealant in a backup set of Bontrager AW2 24c tires on Paradigm wheels (19.5mm inner width) while I plan my next move.
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I'm still trying to figure out the recipe for success with tubeless...
- Finish Line sealant wouldn't completely seal the punctures I had. My GP5000TLs would cry fluid and lose air pressure overnight.
- Peaty's sealant was better, but then I got a puncture in a 25c tire that didn't completely seal. I tried a Stan's DART on it, but that exposed another issue (the wheel I was sold had the wrong rim strip) and the whole system fell apart (deflated.)
- Now I'm using Stan's sealant in a backup set of Bontrager AW2 24c tires on Paradigm wheels (19.5mm inner width) while I plan my next move.
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No experience, sorry. OS was the first that I've tried and it's never given me a reason to look elsewhere, so it's also the only sealant that I've ever tried.
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So I ended up staying Tubeless and got the Pirelli P Zero Race TLR's. A little more of a struggle to get them on my Aeolus Pro 3v's, but did not require any tools and I did not strain my hands. They seated with a floor pump, a little Orange Seal...boom done, ready to ride. Now if the perpetual rain we have been having would end. 10 Day out look is rain everyday, all day on and off....... Been like this for he last 3 weeks. So tired of it. Still going to go out on Saturday, I tired of riding in-doors.
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Got my first puncture today. Was washing the bike and noticed a strand of wire in the tire. I pulled it and spun the tire hoping that the sealant would seal the hole. No joy. Pulled the tire and washed out the sealant and patched it.
Tire went back on without trouble and beads seated with ease.
probably time to pick up a tire plugging tool. I’m open to suggestions.
Tire went back on without trouble and beads seated with ease.
probably time to pick up a tire plugging tool. I’m open to suggestions.
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Got my first puncture today. Was washing the bike and noticed a strand of wire in the tire. I pulled it and spun the tire hoping that the sealant would seal the hole. No joy. Pulled the tire and washed out the sealant and patched it.
Tire went back on without trouble and beads seated with ease.
probably time to pick up a tire plugging tool. I’m open to suggestions.
Tire went back on without trouble and beads seated with ease.
probably time to pick up a tire plugging tool. I’m open to suggestions.
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I have a large bottle of Muc-off….$35. Will wait for the next puncture to see if it works. If it doesn’t work….I’ll chuck it and try orange seal or stans.
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Got my first puncture today. Was washing the bike and noticed a strand of wire in the tire. I pulled it and spun the tire hoping that the sealant would seal the hole. No joy. Pulled the tire and washed out the sealant and patched it.
Tire went back on without trouble and beads seated with ease.
probably time to pick up a tire plugging tool. I’m open to suggestions.
Tire went back on without trouble and beads seated with ease.
probably time to pick up a tire plugging tool. I’m open to suggestions.
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But do not do Stan's - have we not covered this already? Stan's for MTB, maybe, but not for road.
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If you really want to wait for the next puncture to give your sealant another shot, I guess that's your prerogative, but anything that I'd describe as a "wire" should be child's play.
But do not do Stan's - have we not covered this already? Stan's for MTB, maybe, but not for road.
But do not do Stan's - have we not covered this already? Stan's for MTB, maybe, but not for road.
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Hard to say how bad of a puncture you're dealing with, and how the effective the sealant should have been, without seeing a pic. It may have caused a slit in the tread rubber, but very doubtful that it caused a slit clean through the casing; anything on the order of 3/16" or smaller, clean through the casing, should be easy peasy.
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Got my first puncture today. Was washing the bike and noticed a strand of wire in the tire. I pulled it and spun the tire hoping that the sealant would seal the hole. No joy. Pulled the tire and washed out the sealant and patched it.
Tire went back on without trouble and beads seated with ease.
probably time to pick up a tire plugging tool. I’m open to suggestions.
Tire went back on without trouble and beads seated with ease.
probably time to pick up a tire plugging tool. I’m open to suggestions.
And for me Orange Seal has been amazing. I am just scared it goes dry since my garage is sooooo hot!
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DynaPlug - expensive but a great little tool. Dynaplug® Online Store | Dynaplug® Micro Pro - Tubeless Bicycle Tire Repair Kit
And for me Orange Seal has been amazing. I am just scared it goes dry since my garage is sooooo hot!
And for me Orange Seal has been amazing. I am just scared it goes dry since my garage is sooooo hot!
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