Shimano SIS 9 speed compatibility
08-18-22, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BikeRider22
@csport
Thanks for the helpful response to the questions.
Do you know if these 9 speed shifters are indexed/SIS?
microSHIFT Down Tube Shifter Set, 9-Speed, Double/Triple, Shimano Compatible, Silver
https://www.modernbike.com/microshif...patible-silver
I have a number of friction shifters, but I want to upgrade to SIS if I can
Sunrace also has 9 speed shifters.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/gear-shi...-pair/?geoc=US
But, like so many websites, the SIS detail is not mentioned.
Sigh.
Thanks for the helpful response to the questions.
Do you know if these 9 speed shifters are indexed/SIS?
microSHIFT Down Tube Shifter Set, 9-Speed, Double/Triple, Shimano Compatible, Silver
https://www.modernbike.com/microshif...patible-silver
I have a number of friction shifters, but I want to upgrade to SIS if I can
Sunrace also has 9 speed shifters.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/gear-shi...-pair/?geoc=US
But, like so many websites, the SIS detail is not mentioned.
Sigh.
Same model as Modern Bike lists, SL-D09.
Sunrace does not mention anything, I think they are also left friction/right indexed as himespau thinks. Otherwise why mention 9 speed in the specs?
08-18-22, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by csport
Sunrace does not mention anything, I think they are also left friction/right indexed as himespau thinks. Otherwise why mention 9 speed in the specs?
09-18-22, 08:53 PM
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So, some news.
I finally went to swap out the components on this old road bike from the 70s
Miche 9 speed cassette
9 speed crankset/chainwheels
9 speed Front and rear derailleurs
If all that worked, I'd look into SIS shifters.
So I took off the 8 speed cassette
But the 9 speed cassette rubbed against the frame.
Very disappointing.
These same wheels have been used with an 8 speed cassette on this old road bike.
And a 10 speed cluster, on my Surly Cross Check.
The 9 speed Miche cassette went on the hub ok.
But the frame ended up being the compatabilty issue.
Originally, this bike came with a thinner 5 speed freewheel.
Probably 126 mm hub spacing.
That was widened for the newer, wider hubs/cassettes.
Surprise!
Who knew?
I finally went to swap out the components on this old road bike from the 70s
Miche 9 speed cassette
9 speed crankset/chainwheels
9 speed Front and rear derailleurs
If all that worked, I'd look into SIS shifters.
So I took off the 8 speed cassette
But the 9 speed cassette rubbed against the frame.
Very disappointing.
These same wheels have been used with an 8 speed cassette on this old road bike.
And a 10 speed cluster, on my Surly Cross Check.
The 9 speed Miche cassette went on the hub ok.
But the frame ended up being the compatabilty issue.
Originally, this bike came with a thinner 5 speed freewheel.
Probably 126 mm hub spacing.
That was widened for the newer, wider hubs/cassettes.
Surprise!
Who knew?
09-19-22, 11:24 AM
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So the 8 speed cassette didn't rub, the 10 speed cassette didn't rub, but the 9 speed does? I mean that does make sense because the 9 speed cassette is ~1mm wider than than the 8 speed, and the 10 speed Shimano cassette is actually narrower than the 9 speed because the largest cog is dished in. Seems like the best course of action would be to run a 10 speed cassette. Didn't you say you already have the SL7900 shifters?
edit: Hold on one second! You said Miche 9 speed cassette- Are you using a Miche cassette that is meant for adapting a Shimano HG hub for use with Campagnolo drivetrains? These are wider than the Shimano 9 speed cassettes. See the Sheldon Brown cog spacing crib sheet. You need a Shimano/SRAM 9 speed cassette.
edit: Hold on one second! You said Miche 9 speed cassette- Are you using a Miche cassette that is meant for adapting a Shimano HG hub for use with Campagnolo drivetrains? These are wider than the Shimano 9 speed cassettes. See the Sheldon Brown cog spacing crib sheet. You need a Shimano/SRAM 9 speed cassette.
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09-19-22, 11:45 AM
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As I mentioned:
These same wheels have been used with an 8 speed cassette on this old road bike.
And a 10 speed cluster, on my Surly Cross Check.
I only use Shimano and compatible
Pay attention eh!
These same wheels have been used with an 8 speed cassette on this old road bike.
And a 10 speed cluster, on my Surly Cross Check.
I only use Shimano and compatible
Pay attention eh!
09-19-22, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BikeRider22
As I mentioned:
These same wheels have been used with an 8 speed cassette on this old road bike.
And a 10 speed cluster, on my Surly Cross Check.
I only use Shimano and compatible
Pay attention eh!
These same wheels have been used with an 8 speed cassette on this old road bike.
And a 10 speed cluster, on my Surly Cross Check.
I only use Shimano and compatible
Pay attention eh!
09-19-22, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BikeRider22
As I mentioned:
These same wheels have been used with an 8 speed cassette on this old road bike.
And a 10 speed cluster, on my Surly Cross Check.
I only use Shimano and compatible
Pay attention eh!
These same wheels have been used with an 8 speed cassette on this old road bike.
And a 10 speed cluster, on my Surly Cross Check.
I only use Shimano and compatible
Pay attention eh!
If icemilkcoffee is correct in saying your custom Michie cassette is wider than the Shimano-specified width for a 9-speed cassette, that may well be your problem.
09-22-22, 08:32 PM
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Originally, this bike came with a thinner 5 speed freewheel.
Probably 126 mm hub spacing.
That was widened for the newer, wider hubs/cassettes.
Probably 126 mm hub spacing.
That was widened for the newer, wider hubs/cassettes.
And what worked on the Cross Check is irrelevant here. Some combos are just not meant to be. I know I've done some myself but I also have backed away from some things that haven't worked.
