Right hooked her. Ran over her. She's dead.
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I have seen cyclists ride right into the danger zone of vehicles that were signaling their turn and in the process of a turn. I suspect an alert cyclist would have been able to avoid this if it were truly a right hook as opposed to more of a sideswipe. Physics just don't support a large truck making a rapid hook into that parking lot. Visually and audibly there were likely indicators of a slowing truck, and that is supposed to serve as a warning. I drive in areas with a fragmented bike lane system. It can be hard to remain constantly aware of when there is a marked lane beside me. I will never overtake a cyclist and turn right in front of them. I have had cyclists ride into my danger zone as I am turning.
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I've had a trucker come up beside me from behind at a red light, honk twice as warning, and start turning right. I sprinted out of that scenario. Just a simple bullying move on his part. If I'd been squished, people would be saying all the things I did wrong.
A recent behavior I've seen among bike-hating motorists is passing then turning on their right-turn signal, with no intention of turning right. Another intimidation move, a feigned right hook.
A recent behavior I've seen among bike-hating motorists is passing then turning on their right-turn signal, with no intention of turning right. Another intimidation move, a feigned right hook.
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You're right, I stand corrected. The first two videos in the link is concerning the person in the subject of this thread, the last (third) video is a totally separate incident in DC
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I've had a trucker come up beside me from behind at a red light, honk twice as warning, and start turning right. I sprinted out of that scenario. Just a simple bullying move on his part. If I'd been squished, people would be saying all the things I did wrong.
A recent behavior I've seen among bike-hating motorists is passing then turning on their right-turn signal, with no intention of turning right. Another intimidation move, a feigned right hook.
A recent behavior I've seen among bike-hating motorists is passing then turning on their right-turn signal, with no intention of turning right. Another intimidation move, a feigned right hook.
When I caught up with him at the traffic light, I told him that this was a diamond lane and bicycles were supposed to be here. He swore back at me. That was the moment I was convinced to get an action camera.
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I have a folding bike with 14" wheels, single speed. I can only get about 13-14 mph pace out of that thing. Every time I ride it someone tries to right-hook me. At 18-20 mph (different bike) I get ZERO hook attempts. The saying "Speed Kills" does not apply to bicycling in traffic.
So if she was a daydreaming slowpoke her odds of getting hooked was nearly 100%.
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The club member (yes, it was from around here) that took the picture also wrote down the tag number and gave it to the local authorities. Nothing can be done, as no crime has been committed, but a note and copy of the picture was attached to the operators license file. Should they ever be involved in a car-bicycle collision, they are going to have a hard time with the "I didn't see them" excuse.
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The club member (yes, it was from around here) that took the picture also wrote down the tag number and gave it to the local authorities. Nothing can be done, as no crime has been committed, but a note and copy of the picture was attached to the operators license file. Should they ever be involved in a car-bicycle collision, they are going to have a hard time with the "I didn't see them" excuse.
2. The "I didn't see them" excuse is always an invalid defense for drivers trying to lessen the blame, liability or assignment of responsibility for collisions that could have been avoided if the excuse makers had been looking where they should have been paying attention. The offensive rear window decal would be irrelevant to the "excuse" unless it was blocking the driver's vision.
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Additionally, the VC understands that there's common sense involved too. A pedestrian, even while crossing legally in a marked crosswalk, must make his intentions known and clear to oncoming drivers. So in other words, if a pedestrian suddenly darts into a marked crosswalk without warning and you run him over in your car or on your bike, the pedestrian is at fault. It's quite simple.
Perpetuating your misinformation only makes conditions worse for cyclists. One of my college team members was taken out by a pedestrian illegally crossing against a red light. Pedestrian was unharmed, cyclist suffered broken bones. Idiots who don't cross legally are a danger to all cyclists.
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I assume they cannot see me. When I drive I assume they are going to dart in front of me. When I walk I assume they are not going to stop. I call it the difference between having a right and surviving.
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The typical unprotected bike lanes on America streets are dangerous because they give you a false sense of security.
The people who designed them are likely not cyclists themselves and have no clue how make them safer.
The people who designed them are likely not cyclists themselves and have no clue how make them safer.
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It comes down to a question of does the cyclist have right of way on a marked bike lane and does the driver of the truck have a responsibility to yield to cycling traffic in that lane. There is no stop sign for cyclists as far as I can tell, so there is no expectation for cyclists to be stopping and yielding to turning traffic. I can I would suspect the answer is going to be yes, the truck driver has a responsibility to yield, which he did not do. Question is will the police cite him for failure to yield, which I suspect they won't do.
Assume the truck was well in front of the cyclist; Truck signals its turn, and slows. Cyclist rides into the truck’s blind spot. Despite checking mirrors and signaling truck driver doesn’t see the cyclist, and cyclist obliviously continues forward as truck turns.
Not saying it happened that way, but from the available information it is one plausible scenario.
and if it did happen that way, highly unlikely any jury would convict the driver of a crime, nor a civil jury not assign the majority of fault to the driver.
in other words we don’t know.
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we simply don’t have enough information to reach a conclusion.
Assume the truck was well in front of the cyclist; Truck signals its turn, and slows. Cyclist rides into the truck’s blind spot. Despite checking mirrors and signaling truck driver doesn’t see the cyclist, and cyclist obliviously continues forward as truck turns.
Not saying it happened that way, but from the available information it is one plausible scenario.
and if it did happen that way, highly unlikely any jury would convict the driver of a crime, nor a civil jury not assign the majority of fault to the driver.
in other words we don’t know.
Assume the truck was well in front of the cyclist; Truck signals its turn, and slows. Cyclist rides into the truck’s blind spot. Despite checking mirrors and signaling truck driver doesn’t see the cyclist, and cyclist obliviously continues forward as truck turns.
Not saying it happened that way, but from the available information it is one plausible scenario.
and if it did happen that way, highly unlikely any jury would convict the driver of a crime, nor a civil jury not assign the majority of fault to the driver.
in other words we don’t know.
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Assume the truck was well in front of the cyclist; Truck signals its turn, and slows. Cyclist rides into the truck’s blind spot. Despite checking mirrors and signaling truck driver doesn’t see the cyclist, and cyclist obliviously continues forward as truck turns.
All wage structuring/policies/issues causing time sensitive driving should be legislated out of existence for commercial vehicle operators.
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So you missed the post where he cracked up laughing at videos of a pickup truck driver rolling coal on a bunch of cyclists?
He really needs to be banned.
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Should be rear facing wide angle cameras on side of cab or front edge of trailer if tractor/trailer unit and a 17" screen dead center of console to negate blind spot for driver.
All wage structuring/policies/issues causing time sensitive driving should be legislated out of existence for commercial vehicle operators.
All wage structuring/policies/issues causing time sensitive driving should be legislated out of existence for commercial vehicle operators.
So impose rules on trucks, and it increases the price of the things they deliver, like bikes, and thus means fewer bikes.
net, net, it’s not so simple, everything has costs and benefits. The trade offs are why economics is called the dismal science
Easy to say we should mandate this or that, but when you weigh all the costs and benefits, it becomes way more complicated
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