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Old 09-01-22, 11:07 AM
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I was just messing with you.

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I ran my HR up to 172 last night, to see if I still could. Definitely not as high as it could go, but I'm not sure how long I could maintain that. I used to be able to keep it above 165 for 10 or more minutes, doing long, steep climbs. Then again, I was also doing them slower, so...?
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Embarrassing.
Wordle 439 6/6

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Quattro for me. My fourth guess took a good half hour of ruminating.

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Old 09-01-22, 11:15 AM
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I am still working on it. I should have it by now but frustrated.
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I don't ruminate, and just do it. Kind of quite worrying about the number of guesses.
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I am still working on it. I should have it by now but frustrated.
Me, too. Been poking at it off and on all morning. Stuck after 3rd guess, with the 2nd and 5th letter in the right place, but nothing else.

EDIT: Got it. 4/6.

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I was just messing with you.

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What time is it?
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What time is it?
It's that time!
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Here's how I see it: All of us probably have coronary artery disease, so the baseline risk of heart attack is significantly > zero and generally increasing over time. However, very few of us have a critical narrowing or a hot plaque that might take us out this month. People in that category (many or most of whom have symptoms with exertion) should be medicated and under close supervision and have no business riding a bike at any effort level until they're good and stable. That's an acute condition, not something you expect or screen for in random old duffers. For your unfortunate guy, yeah, he's got bad disease and is at higher risk across the board, but he knew that five years ago and is presumably getting the close follow-up he needs.

An EKG never hurts and I even think an echocardiogram might be worth doing in lifelong competitive athletes. There just seems to be a lot of apparently healthy people and casual riders who have rolled Afib, deadly arrhythmias, and heart attacks into a unitary bogey man who will devour them if they stray over some imaginary redline on the HRM.

Maybe @datlas can correct some of this.
I agree with everything that you wrote. You remember what I went through with my previous doc that sent me to my cardiologist despite me telling her my cycling history, benign arrythmia, etc.and that my cardiologist released me after a lot of testing in 2016 and declared me as a fit and healthy individual heart-wise. She had access to all of that but asked me to see him again, anyway. They can't fathom heartrates below 40 at night or 40s in their exam room and to be honest, I'm a short pudgy guy and I can see their concern. Still, they have all of my records. They're from the same medical group.
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What time is it?
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Quattro for me.
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I have not used a HRM for about 5 years, but last time I checked, I could peg the meter at about 190. It's probably come down a few since then, but I am not really interested in such things.
I use one for hot and humid days. Even in my younger years when I weighed 145# and was racing regularly, I would easily overheat and my HR would climb and not come down even when coasting and I'd end up crawling home. Over the years, I've learned that when my HR gets stuck at anerobic threshold (154 bpm) on a hot and humid day, I need to slow down until my HR falls below a certain number (145 bpm) and coast home. It took a long time to learn it, believe it, and stick to it but if temps and humidity are up, I wear a monitor religiously.

A friend of mine, same age, history, body style, etc., had the same problems and now has a core temperature monitor and swears by it. I've thought of trying one and see how it compares to my "stuck" threshold HR.
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Old 09-01-22, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr View Post

A friend of mine, same age, history, body style, etc., had the same problems and now has a core temperature monitor and swears by it. I've thought of trying one and see how it compares to my "stuck" threshold HR.
How would that work? How could you monitor your core temp on the fly?
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How would that work? How could you monitor your core temp on the fly?
"What's his problem - does he have a stick up his ass?"

"No. Thermometer."
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"What's his problem - does he have a stick up his ass?"

"No. Thermometer."
Does it have a bluetooth connection to his Garmin for real-time monitoring?
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Does it have a bluetooth connection to his Garmin for real-time monitoring?
You would hope so - I mean, they have that feature on leave-in food thermometers, these days - and keeping it plugged in with a USB cable would be a pain in the ass.
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You would hope so - I mean, they have that feature on leave-in food thermometers, these days - and keeping it plugged in with a USB cable would be a pain in the ass.
It might also cause some chaffing, making it a pain in other parts, as well.
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How would that work? How could you monitor your core temp on the fly?
I have no idea as I haven’t researched them yet. I don’t even know what he uses but it seems to me that he told me that it clips on to his HRM strap or something. I assume that it’s reading skin temp.
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Does it have a bluetooth connection to his Garmin for real-time monitoring?
I think Garmin makes one so , yeah, probably does.
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I think Garmin makes one so , yeah, probably does.
Garmin makes a body-temp monitor in the configuration mentioned by WhyFi???
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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr View Post
I use one for hot and humid days. Even in my younger years when I weighed 145# and was racing regularly, I would easily overheat and my HR would climb and not come down even when coasting and I'd end up crawling home. Over the years, I've learned that when my HR gets stuck at anerobic threshold (154 bpm) on a hot and humid day, I need to slow down until my HR falls below a certain number (145 bpm) and coast home. It took a long time to learn it, believe it, and stick to it but if temps and humidity are up, I wear a monitor religiously.

A friend of mine, same age, history, body style, etc., had the same problems and now has a core temperature monitor and swears by it. I've thought of trying one and see how it compares to my "stuck" threshold HR.
I use a much simpler method. If I'm working hard enough to have to mouth breathe, I back off. It's essential that my sinus passages stay clear. Robusta coffee does that for me.
Almost all my rides are hot and humid.

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And, speaking of robusta, the Italian coffee maker came in today. I tested it to see if it would boil, on the induction hotplate. It did and it did so quickly. I may have to turn it down some.
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