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Old 06-14-20, 09:13 PM
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The latest update has been posted. Bikes up to 460 have experienced a slight delay in delivery due to a parts issue. New delivery dates for backer and pre-ordered bikes have been revised.
Those wanting refunds can do so by contacting Helix. I, for one, plan on waiting until my pre-order is delivered sometime in the spring/summer of 2021.
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Old 06-19-20, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Batstar
The latest update has been posted. Bikes up to 460 have experienced a slight delay in delivery due to a parts issue. New delivery dates for backer and pre-ordered bikes have been revised.
Those wanting refunds can do so by contacting Helix. I, for one, plan on waiting until my pre-order is delivered sometime in the spring/summer of 2021.
I just read the post. Although it's not fantastic news, a seemingly realistic shipping date is refreshing, and now I feel like I can just concentrate on the bike I have instead of expecting the potential arrival of the Helix this year. It's also great for Helix to offer refunds to backers too, meaning that some of their manufacturing will be freed up for those later on in the waiting list, such as us preorder customers. Hopefully the fenders will be available by next year, and any other manufacturing improvements and resolved issues will help make our bikes a tiny weeny bit better.

I'm also going to wait for my Helix. I'm going to be at least 40 by the time the damn thing arrives, but I'm still looking forward to its eventual delivery. I wish I'd done the same as GibsonSean and bought out an early backer though! Lucky SOB
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Old 06-19-20, 09:54 PM
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I wonder what made Helix offer the refund to backers. Maybe they received government assistance related to covid (even thought they didn't shut down) or perhaps they realised that backers selling their orders makes some bikes available way more cheaply, thus damaging direct sales at a much higher price. I also wonder how many people will take the refund given how much time has passed and how some people might find it very useful to have another 1500+ dollars available now covid has affected the economy so badly.
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Old 06-20-20, 03:01 AM
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Realistic dates

My two bikes have been rescheduled. The backed one (in the 1100's) for February and the preordered one (in the 1300's) in May. This is indeed realistic, considering the current rate of 75 per month.
however, 75 is considerably less than the forecasted 200. A usual, they are progressing very cautiously.
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Old 06-20-20, 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MrFlamey
I wonder what made Helix offer the refund to backers.
The most obvious reason is that for any reason they have enough money to survive and that manufacturing one Helix cost more than what the backers paid, i.e. they loose money on every backers Helix manufactured.
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Old 06-20-20, 09:13 AM
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I think that they are motivated for people to cancel so that they can sell bikes at retail pricing and hence collect more cash. I myself have cancelled my order just based on the overall lack of updates from Helix. I wish them every success in the future and will purchase a bike when the backlog is removed.
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Old 06-21-20, 05:51 AM
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I don't know how long the Helix manual has been available on the Helix customer portal, but I just found it. Since people frequently mention the helical hinges wearing out due to dirt getting in etc. I'll post the section about how they are designed to be maintenance free:

HELICAL HINGES
DO NOT LUBRICATE - The helical hinges are designed for use in dirty environments and do not require lubrication. Road oils and grease will not affect their performance.
FORK AND STEERER LOCKING DEVICES
DO NOT LUBRICATE - The fork and steerer locks are designed to never need adjustment and require no lubrication for the lifetime of their use. Road oils and grease will not affect their performance.
It will be interesting to see if this is true.
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Old 07-02-20, 10:38 PM
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Given the location of the rear hinge, road oil and grease are hardly the part that's worrisome. Road grit and dirt is. Is that included under "dirty environments"?
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Old 07-10-20, 10:38 AM
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mounting a trailer

Has anyone had experience mouthing a trailer to the bike. If so how is it done?
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Old 07-10-20, 12:04 PM
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Alternative for helix?

As it's taking forever for the helix to get on the market, especially if you have been keeping touch from the Kickstarter campaign, has anyone found a decent alternative? One that has a higher rider weight limit than dahons, terns and all the other mainstream brands?
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Old 07-11-20, 07:00 AM
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You might look into Bike Friday. They are custom built to you needs and size. They have an 800 number you can call. Roger
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What rider weight would you need ?
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Old 07-12-20, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by rhenning
You might look into Bike Friday. They are custom built to you needs and size. They have an 800 number you can call. Roger
I live in Europe and they are not available. Also the price of a bike Friday including delivery and possible import charges is too expensive for me.

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What rider weight would you need ?
115-120 kg
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Old 07-12-20, 08:53 AM
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I live in Europe and they are not available. Also the price of a bike Friday including delivery and possible import charges is too expensive for me.
If you're lucky you might get a used one cheaper. (At least here in Germany and in UK there are some on offer.)

But if price is an issue that will probably also exclude the Helix and many other "more stable" alternatives that come to mind. (Bernds, Moulton, Montague Paratrooper, Airnimal)
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Originally Posted by ladi
If you're lucky you might get a used one cheaper. (At least here in Germany and in UK there are some on offer.)

But if price is an issue that will probably also exclude the Helix and many other "more stable" alternatives that come to mind. (Bernds, Moulton, Montague Paratrooper, Airnimal)
So basically a stable folding bike needs a budget well over 1500€;

Montagues are stable and there are affordable choices but their wheels are too big and their fold is cumbersome.

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Old 07-12-20, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by drade
115-120 kg
Tyrell Ive is specified for max 130kg.

For other bikes, you could check were the weight limit comes from.

If it comes from the wheels, you can make custom wheels for a higher max weight.
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Old 07-23-20, 03:12 AM
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Next bike order bid is end of August, anyone knows if they already filled their orders for July or if they pushed the milestone?
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Old 07-25-20, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RatonLaveur
Next bike order bid is end of August, anyone knows if they already filled their orders for July or if they pushed the milestone?
This July bid ended much faster them its predecessors - less than a day. So I guess they sold them all. They stopped writing the number of bikes offered (it used to be 10 pieces at the first bids).
Still no new progress report (last one was on 14th of June!)
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Originally Posted by drade
115-120 kg
If you look on various national distributor and dealers' websites you might see all manner of max rider weights listed, along with humorously fictional component listings. Oh, Dahon. Sigh.

Anyway, the US distributor (he who can't be named) confirmed with the factory that the max rider weight for the Dahon Curl is in fact:



(If you're reading this on your phone, that's 130kg.)
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The latest update is out. Not much to report other than bike 400 was shipped and welding of bike frame components 400-500 completed.Welding of the next 100 bikes will commence next week. Images were posted of a Helix sporting the optional upgrade kit.

Work is still proceeding despite recent challenges. The team is doing well and committed to getting bikes out.
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Strange. It got deleted last night for some reason.

Hi by the way! I've read the forum quite a lot over the years (lol) waiting for the Helix.
I'm backer number 1308 with delivery due in May to the UK.

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Old 07-31-20, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by HelixBacker
Strange. It got deleted last night for some reason.

Hi by the way! I've read the forum quite a lot over the years (lol) waiting for the Helix.
I'm backer number 1308 with delivery due in May to the UK.
Welcome. I did notice a typo with regards to the date in Peter's latest announcement but not sure if it prompted removal of the update. Did you pre-order your Helix? Your delivery date is more or less in line with my pre-order (#1212) of March 2021. Kickstarter bikes are slated for delivery 6 months prior.
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Originally Posted by Batstar
Welcome. I did notice a typo with regards to the date in Peter's latest announcement but not sure if it prompted removal of the update. Did you pre-order your Helix? Your delivery date is more or less in line with my pre-order (#1212) of March 2021. Kickstarter bikes are slated for delivery 6 months prior.
Well I'll be! You're quite right. I'm actually a pre-order customer, having placed it in June 2016. I totally forgot that I missed the campaign.
Like you, I also thought it could have been the typo but why not just correct it (or leave it). Also, though easily deduced, I thought it strange that the images were plonked there with not explanation.
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Old 07-31-20, 11:13 AM
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I'm thinking that the update is being revised to account for any other anomalies that might have gone unnoticed. As you pointed out, a more detailed explanation of the teaser images. Hope that it will be back up before long.
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Old 08-01-20, 03:09 AM
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Latest Update

The numbers above seem to relate to the wrong update. Latest update quotes bicycle 475 delivered, with 500-600 awaiting assembly.
the ultralight conversion is available.
The forum is now open also for pre-orderers.
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