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Road Cycling It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle. -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 07-01-23, 03:57 PM
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Stopped at this overlook. I'm going way down there before the next climb.

I don't usually like to stop on climbs but the view here was pretty cool.

Took a little side trip to Malibou Lake. Yes,, they spell it with an "o" for some reason.

Back on the main road I came to the closed section. I really hope they never open it to motor traffic. It turns into a race track when it's open.

Going up there.

Looking back near the top.

Some riders out but not as many as I expected.

Lots of big rocks.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Yikes! Do they have a preventer on or was this 200 msec before the Chinese gybe? Theyd have to blow the halyard to get the true parasail effect. Come to think of it, they should just blow the halyard.
Dont know that boat, but have been in that situation twice. Boom is bad when it comes flying over. Can try to release the guy or blow the halyard, and hope you dont have to rerun it.

Better not have knots in the end of the lines.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
this confirms your suspicion that it was cool in June.

Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
He was ready to let us until I let it slip that I was retired highway engineer and that we would be careful.
Oof. Someone likes to talk too much.
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Miles of descending with nary a car.
Where is everyone? Are they leaving the west coast?
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Is the end near? Overtime isn't for sports only.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
Is the end near? Overtime isn't for sports only.
I was wondering that too.

Asleep at the wheel??
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Originally Posted by datlas
I was wondering that too.

Asleep at the wheel??
Prolly doing a century and lost track of time.
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Old 07-01-23, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Where is everyone? Are they leaving the west coast?
Unfortunately, no. I hear that sometimes, "people are leaving California in droves". We still have over 40 million.

Those roads are not used for traffic getting from place to place. There are cars but on weekends we typically see racers and motorcyclists. Today was unusually light but I'm not sure why. The freeway on the way home was awful.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
Dont know that boat, but have been in that situation twice. Boom is bad when it comes flying over. Can try to release the guy or blow the halyard, and hope you dont have to rerun it.

Better not have knots in the end of the lines.
I have never been in a Chinese gybe situation, but Ive been spun like a top and slammed onto a cockpit bench by the mainsheet system on my boat. Very scary.
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Originally Posted by big john
Those roads are not used for traffic getting from place to place. There are cars but on weekends we typically see racers and motorcyclists. Today was unusually light but I'm not sure why. The freeway on the way home was awful.
Do you ever feel endangered by them?
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Originally Posted by big john
Unfortunately, no. I hear that sometimes, "people are leaving California in droves". We still have over 40 million.

Those roads are not used for traffic getting from place to place. There are cars but on weekends we typically see racers and motorcyclists. Today was unusually light but I'm not sure why. The freeway on the way home was awful.
I just went to the store for a rotisserie chicken, potato salad and Cheerios. Hardly any traffic at all out there! Most of the smart people have gone somewhere cooler for the weekend.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Do you ever feel endangered by them?
Of course, but it depends on the driver and if they acknowledge my right to live. Sometimes they have no regard, sometimes they are careful.

One time a friend and I were in the mountains at a cafe and race cars started showing up. I chatted with a couple of the drivers and they said it was a rally and the cafe was a checkpoint. They said there were over 100 cars still coming. Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Porsches, legit track cars. We were worried because we had to go the same way they were and we couldn't wait for 100 more cars, so we set off.

When they passed us every one of them gave us plenty of room, they smiled and gave thumbs up, and we felt safe with them on the road. I was impressed.
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Originally Posted by big john
Of course, but it depends on the driver and if they acknowledge my right to live. Sometimes they have no regard, sometimes they are careful.

One time a friend and I were in the mountains at a cafe and race cars started showing up. I chatted with a couple of the drivers and they said it was a rally and the cafe was a checkpoint. They said there were over 100 cars still coming. Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Porsches, legit track cars. We were worried because we had to go the same way they were and we couldn't wait for 100 more cars, so we set off.

When they passed us every one of them gave us plenty of room, they smiled and gave thumbs up, and we felt safe with them on the road. I was impressed.
I get passed by supercars going psychotically fast every now and then. Its startling, but they always seem to give a lot of room.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Do you ever feel endangered by them?
Here is a video from when the road was open. Camera services position themselves at certain corners and they put signs advertising their presence. This causes idiot drivers to show off for the camera. You can go online and purchase pics from these services.
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Originally Posted by big john
Unfortunately, no. I hear that sometimes, "people are leaving California in droves". We still have over 40 million.

Those roads are not used for traffic getting from place to place. There are cars but on weekends we typically see racers and motorcyclists. Today was unusually light but I'm not sure why. The freeway on the way home was awful.
I recall my first ride in LA. I rode from downtown to Santa Monica and up the PCH and was effing scared to death by the speed and density of traffic. Once I turned onto Topanga Canyon road it was 98% better with occasional cars, then onto Tuna Canyon road for several miles with ZERO cars. It was quite a contrast.
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It's great for cyclists that some roads have no car traffic for miles but why build roads if there isn't traffic? That's is what they are for, cars not necessarily bicycles.

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Originally Posted by big john
Here is a video from when the road was open. Camera services position themselves at certain corners and they put signs advertising their presence. This causes idiot drivers to show off for the camera. You can go online and purchase pics from these services.
That's like the Tail of the Dragon here. Primarily it's motorcyclists driving like manics.

https://tailofthedragon.com/
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It's great for cyclists that some roads have no car traffic for miles but why build roads if there isn't traffic? That's is what they are for, cars not necessarily bicycles.
Good question for you to ponder overnight. Report your findings in the morning.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
It's great for cyclists that some roads have no car traffic for miles but why build roads if there isn't traffic? That's is what they are for, cars not necessarily bicycles.
Cars R dumb. Roads are way funner without 'em

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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Good question for you to ponder overnight. Report your findings in the morning.
You're not the boss of me.
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In other car news, we should be getting some twilight in Spa soon. This is the first race I've seen Valentino Rossi do some laps in a 4-wheeled vehicle.
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You are in Switzerland?!?
Yes. Chosen because over the holidays AG's parents asked where we wanted to go, so I checked what had direct flights from DEN. For some reason, a SwissAir subsidiary called Edelweiss has a summer-only route that just runs laps between DEN and ZRH, because apparently Swiss people want to take summer vacations and see slightly different mountains with fatter people around.

However, they're categorically incapable of taking a simple vacation, so her mom had us then go to Interlaken for the first few days, and had to be talked out of spending time in Bern as well. Good we did, because DEN was smashed by weather and there were all sorts of delays because of that, and then Edelweiss had IT issues and had to do manual boarding (reading the boarding passes manually instead of scanning). We got up though, and I took a half a Valium and got maybe five hours of being passed out, then the drive to Interlaken. Dinner was only a bit after we arrived, then finally sleep in a real bed, and woke up just now at a nominal time that matches my normal clock, so we'll see how I do from here. It was, in fact, 24 hours of transit counting from when we left home to when we made Interlaken. Almost as long as HK with all that happened. But then this...


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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Cars R dumb.
We know.
The boss got an estimate for the door ding where my mower threw a rock and says it's $2,200.

It's a BMW 335i. I'm thinking he once said it's 2007 (I might be wrong). How much is the entire car worth?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
We know.
The boss got an estimate for the door ding where my mower threw a rock and says it's $2,200.

It's a BMW 335i. I'm thinking he once said it's 2007 (I might be wrong). How much is the entire car worth?
I'd say $9-15k for good ones.
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Oooh this low miles cornvertible brought $20k

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