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I'm trying latex tubes on my race bike and have suffered my second blowout in 6 or 7 rides. The tubes are Michelin AirComps spec'd for 22-23c tires, but riding a 25 mm tire on a 24 mm width rim. I'm thinking they're just too narrow and fold up in there.
Anything else I could be missing? All together the tire+tube combo (Corsa G+ and latex) is notably fast and soft and I'm enjoying the ride. Maybe I just need to try the Vittoria 25/28c tubes instead?
Also I'm using a Topeak valve extender, don't think it matter but thought I'd mentioned.
Anything else I could be missing? All together the tire+tube combo (Corsa G+ and latex) is notably fast and soft and I'm enjoying the ride. Maybe I just need to try the Vittoria 25/28c tubes instead?
Also I'm using a Topeak valve extender, don't think it matter but thought I'd mentioned.
If correctly installed, latex tubes are awesome. They're actually more puncture resistant than butyl due to that stretch. Frankly I can't see racing on butyl, you're talking about roughly a 3 watt difference in rolling resistance per tire. Given all the other marginal gains that racers chase, this one's a no-brainer.
I've found it best to start opposite the valve stem when rolling the tire back on the rim. Finishing at the stem it seems to help keep the tube inside the tire a little better. It just takes a little practice. Tetonriders tip for pressing in the sidewall all the way around to look for pinched tube is a good idea also. And if you have the old-style nylon rim strips, replace them with tubeless rim tape (better seal over the rim bed, and also thinner which can ease installation of tight tires a bit).
The 22-23c tube should be fine, they'll stretch plenty to fill a 25c tire up (just pump one up outside a tire to see). That said I can recommend the pink Vittoria Latex tubes which come in a 19-24 or 25-28. I've used both in 25c tires, the 19-24's are a little easier to install.
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50% of the TTs I see a top 5 place is within 1 sec of another. It all matters.
But for the money ... get good tires 1st, latex tubes second.
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i think it is hard to beat latex tubes!
anyway, the stuff is not mutually exclusive. one can get a lighter bike while also losing fat, for example.
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Which tires does the collective mind recommend? I've also been thinking about trying latex tubes and would like to pair them with a nicer set of tires. I work in a Specialized LBS so I have access to their tires plus others. I wouldn't mind trying Turbo Cottons and I've heard you're doing well to get 800 miles from a rear tire with those...but I don't know anyone who's actually running them.
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Kid's school club has 46 members. Many of the kids come from low income, but are athletic (and some too built - chest/biceps, even junior added some pull-up induced mass that I don't see helpful for cycling), so we try to see what reasonable race bikes we can put together to see if they are cut out for this sport. Lots of companies give stuff, and we buy stuff. Shimano 105 works fine, as do alloy frames. It is the wheels and tires where the largest value is in replacing. So after getting the basic bikes (20+) race-able, tires are changed 1st and the "national team" (kids competing in collegiate nationals) will get latex tubes too. I found the Michelin tubes softer and more flexible than others I've used, so the rest get those. There is also a maintenance side to latex only serious cyclist appreciate.
I'm a rec rider, too fat, and I ride latex tubes because they feel better. I notice if a tubular doesn't have them.
#1806
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I'm still amazed at the local triathletes who don't blink at paying for a new Shiv and/or Zipp wheels but insist on running Gatorskins...even tubulars.
Which tires does the collective mind recommend? I've also been thinking about trying latex tubes and would like to pair them with a nicer set of tires. I work in a Specialized LBS so I have access to their tires plus others. I wouldn't mind trying Turbo Cottons and I've heard you're doing well to get 800 miles from a rear tire with those...but I don't know anyone who's actually running them.
Which tires does the collective mind recommend? I've also been thinking about trying latex tubes and would like to pair them with a nicer set of tires. I work in a Specialized LBS so I have access to their tires plus others. I wouldn't mind trying Turbo Cottons and I've heard you're doing well to get 800 miles from a rear tire with those...but I don't know anyone who's actually running them.
I run butyl tubes because I don't currently have a set of race wheels for the road bike and it's expensive to be out training (especially here) with latex tubes that could flat. My TT bike has a latex tube in the front trispoke (thanks @tetonrider) and a butyl in the back because I just haven't gone to buy a new latex tube to put in there yet. I should do that before chico.
The cottons get good commendations. I've just stuck to the 25mm conti gp4000s2 for my everything tire. I ran the first version of the corsa G+ when they came out and had good luck with them until the end of their life. My tt bike has an old school narrow GP supersonic and a 23mm corsa Speed.
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I'm still amazed at the local triathletes who don't blink at paying for a new Shiv and/or Zipp wheels but insist on running Gatorskins...even tubulars.
Which tires does the collective mind recommend? I've also been thinking about trying latex tubes and would like to pair them with a nicer set of tires. I work in a Specialized LBS so I have access to their tires plus others. I wouldn't mind trying Turbo Cottons and I've heard you're doing well to get 800 miles from a rear tire with those...but I don't know anyone who's actually running them.
Which tires does the collective mind recommend? I've also been thinking about trying latex tubes and would like to pair them with a nicer set of tires. I work in a Specialized LBS so I have access to their tires plus others. I wouldn't mind trying Turbo Cottons and I've heard you're doing well to get 800 miles from a rear tire with those...but I don't know anyone who's actually running them.
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I just ordered three of them in 700x28. Supposedly they’re the “Hell of the North” versions, maybe they’ll wear better than the originals.
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I was setting up my backup wheels for chico and was debating throwing on some older, already used with a lot of miles conti gps or just leaving the brand new michelin pro4 endurance's that came with the wheels. Think I'm gonna leave the narrower Michelin tires for the sheer fact of better puncture resistance. The idea is I shouldn't have to pull them out of the wheel car, but if I do, I want to make sure the brakes aren't rubbing and I'm not gonna get another flat.
#1821
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what do you recommend for full-fingered gloves for racing in the heat of the summer? (road rash mitigation) Maybe like something that the track guys use.
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Edit:
They're Sugoi, no name on them though. I think they might've been advertised as mountain bike gloves. The fronts are somewhat thick but perforated for air, the backs are more like a mesh. I've worn them on very hot days and they were fine.
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(cue someone’s story about how some guy tore off a fingernail..)
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I've wanted to get a pair of the 5-bling gloves that were popular for a while since they're tacky. Could get yourself a set of keirin gloves but that's probably overkill (and hot)
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I have some pearl izumi elite gloves that are full fingered but fairly decently vented.