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Old 08-04-22, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by big john
I've used old bar end friction and thumb friction shifters with 7 to 10 speed cassettes. Also old long cage derailleurs seem pretty versatile.
Will the bike be for trail riding? Lots of climbing?

Also, I have modern XT shifter on my 11 speed mtb and it shifts as well as anything I've ever used. It's as close to perfect as possible, I think.
There aren’t any hills here so no climbing. it will be for just riding around locally on the street. I’m putting upright bars on it, fenders, and the widest Renee Herse tires I can fit under the fenders.
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Old 08-04-22, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by m.c.
There aren’t any hills here so no climbing. it will be for just riding around locally on the street. I’m putting upright bars on it, fenders, and the widest Renee Herse tires I can fit under the fenders.
A friend did something similar and called it his "urban assault vehicle".
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Old 08-04-22, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by big john
A friend did something similar and called it his "urban assault vehicle".
I could see that in a matte black or grey color. Maybe on a fat tire bike.

I'm going with a blue and cream color scheme and silver or polished parts. I'm basically copying the look of a Rivendell. They changed the bike I wanted so I didn't order one and I've always wanted to do this with a mountain bike frame.

I don't really know what to do with the gearing. Is it possible to build a cassette? I know I wanted a 21 tooth cog on the rear, that will give me the exact gear inch number as my cruiser, which has the same size tires and is perfect for me most of the time. I'm planning on a 42 tooth chainring and 165mm cranks.
The pre-built cassette does not have a 21 tooth cog but has some close and I don't know if it makes much difference. As much as I read about gearing I never really understand it.
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Originally Posted by m.c.
I could see that in a matte black or grey color. Maybe on a fat tire bike.

I'm going with a blue and cream color scheme and silver or polished parts. I'm basically copying the look of a Rivendell. They changed the bike I wanted so I didn't order one and I've always wanted to do this with a mountain bike frame.

I don't really know what to do with the gearing. Is it possible to build a cassette? I know I wanted a 21 tooth cog on the rear, that will give me the exact gear inch number as my cruiser, which has the same size tires and is perfect for me most of the time. I'm planning on a 42 tooth chainring and 165mm cranks.
The pre-built cassette does not have a 21 tooth cog but has some close and I don't know if it makes much difference. As much as I read about gearing I never really understand it.
I use Miche cassettes with Campagnolo stuff. I think they will make anything you want but you might have to buy through a dealer, I don't think they sell direct.

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Old 08-04-22, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by big john
I use Miche cassettes with Campagnolo stuff. I think they will make anything you want but you might have to buy through a dealer, I don't think they sell direct.

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thanks, I’ll look into it.
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Old 08-04-22, 03:51 PM
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Yep, the consistent, massive, game changing improvements of MTBs over the past 30 year have all been a cynical plot to get us to buy them.

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Originally Posted by Azriel
what is the norm for mountain bike tire sizes these days? I know back then it was like 26in right.
Mostly 29". The rest 27.5". At least for non-BSO bikes.

You can still get some good 26" tires, though not the selection of the other sizes.
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
Mostly 29". The rest 27.5". At least for non-BSO bikes.

You can still get some good 26" tires, though not the selection of the other sizes.
Currently, Continental still makes the Black Chili versions of Race King and Speed King in 26”. I will be disappointed but not surprised when the time comes that those tires aren’t available in that size. At some point I will probably need to get a different bike that can use the sizes currently in favor.

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Originally Posted by Kapusta
Mostly 29". The rest 27.5". At least for non-BSO bikes.

You can still get some good 26" tires, though not the selection of the other sizes.
There's still a vast selection of 559 tires, since various bikes still use them. Maybe specifically offroad ones may not have a large variety, bu as a whole; there are choices. I haven't really looked online, though, I just get whatever the bike shops have.
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Originally Posted by Jax Rhapsody
There's still a vast selection of 559 tires, since various bikes still use them. Maybe specifically offroad ones may not have a large variety, bu as a whole; there are choices. I haven't really looked online, though, I just get whatever the bike shops have.
Well I assume since the OP asked amount mountain bikes tires that he is referring to the “off road variety”.

Selection of mid to high end MTB tires in 26” is rather limited compared to the other two sizes. If you are not particular about what you’re running then it matters less.
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Old 08-05-22, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by m.c.
I’m not sure what to use for 11 or 12 speed. I was going to go with an IGH but because of the dropout width I am using the silver hub and I’m pretty sure I’m going to use the 7 speed cassette they sell. I’m not sure which derailleur I will use yet but I plan on using the Rivendell friction shifter, it is good for up to 9 gears.
Microshift makes the M10/M11, which is a Shimano compatible 10 or 11-sp thumbshifter (indexed or friction) they also offer a matching 2/3-sp left shifter, and the whole set bears a striking resemblance to the classic SunTour XCD gruppo, for bonus retro points
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Originally Posted by Jax Rhapsody
There's still a vast selection of 559 tires, since various bikes still use them. Maybe specifically offroad ones may not have a large variety, bu as a whole; there are choices. I haven't really looked online, though, I just get whatever the bike shops have.
Schwalbe, Continental, Maxxis and Panaracer still have pretty decent lineups of "proper" 26er MTB tires; as well as a number of boutique makes (actually mostly produced by Panaracer) You'll have to look online, though, since typically, there's not enough demand anymore for your typical LBS to stock more than a basic selection.
Not that there aren't still "nice" 26ers out there, but most of them are at least 15 years old don't see much trail use; either the owners got old and don't MTB much anymore, or if they're hitting the trails a lot, they've moved on to more capable modern bikes
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653
Microshift makes the M10/M11, which is a Shimano compatible 10 or 11-sp thumbshifter (indexed or friction) they also offer a matching 2/3-sp left shifter, and the whole set bears a striking resemblance to the classic SunTour XCD gruppo, for bonus retro points
Thanks, I'll look at them.
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653
Not that there aren't still "nice" 26ers out there, but most of them are at least 15 years old don't see much trail use; either the owners got old and don't MTB much anymore, or if they're hitting the trails a lot, they've moved on to more capable modern bikes
Yep. I think my 2012 Turner 5-Spot was one of the last high end 26ers made. By the following year, they were practically dead in the high end market. Kept it going as long as I could, but once I started to need things like rear wheels, it made less and less sense to keep putting money into it. I rode it up until this past winter.

The 2022 Canefield Tilt that replaced it is a phenomenally more capable bike overall. Mainly due to the geometry, in particular the fact that they finally figured out how to make 29ers nimble and fun.
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Originally Posted by beng1
Every so many years they have to change the tire-sizes or some other feature so they can tell everyone that their current bike is outdated and they have to buy a new one to remain "competitive" and current. This is complete hogwash as 90% of riding a bike in fast or technical challenges is the rider, the bike makes little difference as long as it is in good shape. Records were set on MTB courses with 26" wheels back in the 1990s that 99.999% of the riding population will never be able to get close to even if they are riding a $15,000 E-MTB.
Totally agree.

​​​​​​Yet I still have to try all of the tires sizes out. I love them all.
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Sorry if I fed any trolls.

I was in a bike shop going out of business. I just realized I saw 27 1/4 tires in there . I better get a pair while I can.

Now back to the 29x3.0 boost forum...
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mountain bike tire sizes

Originally Posted by Azriel
what is the norm for mountain bike tire sizes these days? I know back then it was like 26in right.
Mountain wheel diameter is generally 26 inches, the limit wheel diameter is slightly smaller than 24 inches. If you are daily cycling, should choose 26 inch mountain bike is more suitable, this size is the most common, accessories are easy to obtain, cycling efficiency is higher. 24 inch except for show cars, generally only suitable for teenagers transition size.
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Originally Posted by murphyqin
Mountain wheel diameter is generally 26 inches,
Have you been in asleep for the past 10 years?
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
Have you been in asleep for the past 10 years?
"Murphyqin" is a bot. Their posts read like copypasta from AliExpress listings
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653
"Murphyqin" is a bot. Their posts read like copypasta from AliExpress listings
Do not engage
No,I'm not a bot,what you said confused me,I was just trying to be active to fit into this place.Maybe my point of view is not very practical, but it is also something I learned from the others and hope it helps.
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Originally Posted by Kapusta
Have you been in asleep for the past 10 years?
I do wish I could beat insomnia and sleep for ten years...
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Uh huh, and just who are “they” in this conspiracy theory? The Council of Bikes? Big Gravel?
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Originally Posted by murphyqin
No,I'm not a bot,what you said confused me,I was just trying to be active to fit into this place.Maybe my point of view is not very practical, but it is also something I learned from the others and hope it helps.
You didn't contribute anything helpful since 26" tires on mountain bikes are not the norm these days.
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Originally Posted by beng1
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Phone is push-button dial on the kitchen wall, my van is an 85' GMC 3/4 ton cargo which some deceased friends of mine bought brand new, GM sold the same van-body from 71' through I think 1996, but I would not want one later than mine because it still has a Rochester Quadrajet carb and a distributor ignition, both of which I have many decades of experience with and can take apart and assemble blindfolded. When EFI/ignition computers go bad, there is no repair but throwing the computer out and installing a new one. My van does have HEI ignition, but I have procured a points distributor from the pre-74' model which will swap in easily so it will be 100% chip-free. I am no hurry, but someday if I am lucky I may inherit my father's 70' Impala. This is what I haul my MTB in if the single-track is too far away for a 60 year-old to ride to.

You are keeping it from the scrap heap which I commend.
I had a 1995 Whirlpool Refrigerator that was still working great in 2020 without ever being serviced or repaired before I gave it to a friend in need who still has it.
My 2020 Whirlpool has already has had a few plastic parts and the motherboard replaced.

If it works for you, why replace?
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I'd be afraid to drive that van across town let alone on a 3000 mile round trip fishing excursion out west that I do every year.
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