Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > General Cycling Discussion
Reload this Page >

Off Brand (Way Off) Question

Search
Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Off Brand (Way Off) Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-10-22, 09:58 AM
  #26  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,850
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6943 Post(s)
Liked 10,944 Times in 4,677 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
For $9 bucks? I'd buy it just out of curiosity. Seriously, what do you have to lose?
Originally Posted by smd4
Technically, true. But really? The perpetual cheapness of folks involved in this expensive hobby never ceases to amaze me.
I'm not following you. Should we try the cheap cassette, or are we too cheap?
Koyote is offline  
Likes For Koyote:
Old 11-10-22, 09:58 AM
  #27  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,217
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18398 Post(s)
Liked 15,494 Times in 7,317 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
Then why do you keep responding to me? Just can't help yourself, I guess.
Sometimes I like to shoot fish in a barrel on slow Thursdays.
indyfabz is offline  
Likes For indyfabz:
Old 11-10-22, 10:00 AM
  #28  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,758

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3492 Post(s)
Liked 2,911 Times in 1,766 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote
I'm not following you. Should we try the cheap cassette, or are we too cheap?
It's simple, really. Apparently, the cheap price of $9 dollars is too expensive for some people.
smd4 is online now  
Old 11-10-22, 10:00 AM
  #29  
Fredo76
The Wheezing Geezer
 
Fredo76's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Española, NM
Posts: 1,043

Bikes: 1976 Fredo Speciale, Jamis Citizen 1, Ellis-Briggs FAVORI, Rivendell Clem Smith Jr.

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 411 Post(s)
Liked 896 Times in 440 Posts
Got a great deal!

Originally Posted by mtnbud
I bet you'll get an 8sp cassette like the pictures and not a 11 speed like the description. I've noticed some of the made in china sold stuff has become more and more deceptive in their ads. You can't believe the description or the pictures for that matter.
Maybe you would. I didn't when I bought a similar one. Mine works great. What are you betting? You'd likely lose...

Not picking on you BTW, the whole thread is full of prejudice...

Maybe brands are for FOOLS!

Flame away, all y'all!!!
Fredo76 is offline  
Likes For Fredo76:
Old 11-10-22, 10:06 AM
  #30  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,850
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6943 Post(s)
Liked 10,944 Times in 4,677 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
It's simple, really. Apparently, the cheap price of $9 dollars is too expensive for some people.
I guess my time is worth more than yours, as I wouldn't waste it in a (probably futile) effort to save so little money. But you should try it and report back to us.
Koyote is offline  
Likes For Koyote:
Old 11-10-22, 10:21 AM
  #31  
rsbob 
Grupetto Bob
 
rsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Seattle-ish
Posts: 6,189

Bikes: Bikey McBike Face

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2571 Post(s)
Liked 5,600 Times in 2,907 Posts
You are being robbed at that price. I would wait until it goes on sale. Black Friday is coming and you might get it for half off!
__________________
Road 🚴🏾‍♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾‍♂️







rsbob is offline  
Likes For rsbob:
Old 11-10-22, 10:22 AM
  #32  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,850
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6943 Post(s)
Liked 10,944 Times in 4,677 Posts
Originally Posted by rsbob
You are being robbed at that price. I would wait until it goes on sale. Black Friday is coming and you might get it for half off!
So then he'd only be overpaying by $4.50.
Koyote is offline  
Likes For Koyote:
Old 11-10-22, 10:22 AM
  #33  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,758

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3492 Post(s)
Liked 2,911 Times in 1,766 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote
I guess my time is worth more than yours, as I wouldn't waste it in a (probably futile) effort to save so little money. But you should try it and report back to us.
As you may have noticed (well, apparently not), I'm not the one looking for a new cassette.
smd4 is online now  
Old 11-10-22, 10:32 AM
  #34  
mtnbud
Senior Member
 
mtnbud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Salem Oregon
Posts: 1,030

Bikes: 2019 Trek Stash 7, 1994 Specialized Epic 1986 Diamondback Ascent 1996 Klein Pulse Comp, 2006 Specialized Sequoia Elite

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 418 Post(s)
Liked 521 Times in 290 Posts
Originally Posted by Fredo76
Maybe you would. I didn't when I bought a similar one. Mine works great. What are you betting? You'd likely lose...

Not picking on you BTW, the whole thread is full of prejudice...

Maybe brands are for FOOLS!

Flame away, all y'all!!!
Since you say you're not picking on me -
I've been burned twice this month buying made in China/sold by Chinese distributor stuff. With the first, the item had a picture which showed 2 items and the description said 2 items. What I got was not 2 of the items, but one of the items and a little trinket. The description of the item was also inaccurate making false claims about the features. I was able to get my money back, but it still involved a bit of my time and some annoyance on my part.
The second was for a too good to be true price and the item never showed up. I was able to get my money back on that also, but it took a lot of patience and persistence to get my refund.

I also own some made in China stuff that were killer deals that I'm very happy with. It's been my experience that if the description has errors and makes inconsistent claims and pictures don't match you're likely going to be dissapointed.

Strangely enough, I recently bought a couple of things from Aliexpress for unbelievably low prices that I'm extremely happy with. I'm not completely against buying made in China stuff, but when the pictures don't match the description...
mtnbud is offline  
Likes For mtnbud:
Old 11-10-22, 11:04 AM
  #35  
seypat
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 8,515
Mentioned: 69 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3241 Post(s)
Liked 2,512 Times in 1,510 Posts
At least it's not a counterfeit. You know what you're getting.
seypat is offline  
Likes For seypat:
Old 11-10-22, 11:09 AM
  #36  
SpedFast
Just Pedaling
Thread Starter
 
SpedFast's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: US West Coast
Posts: 998

Bikes: YEP!

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 328 Post(s)
Liked 516 Times in 343 Posts
I only asked because it sounds too good to be true, but I have purchased lots of Chinese made items in bulk and have been very satisfied with them, especially when fixing neighborhood kids bikes and not charging them for the parts or my time. I like to keep a stock of consumables on hand and since I have several bikes with 11spd cassettes, I was curious if anyone had 'real' input on these. There are quite a few Chinese sellers offering them, so they probably are 11 spd if (big if) you get all the parts that should come with one. And if they're made of soft pig iron they'll wear out before the chain and I can just keep replacing them instead of the more expensive chains haha. I haven't found cheap chains lately. Thanks for all the replies. Fredo76 told me what I needed to know.
SpedFast is offline  
Old 11-10-22, 11:51 AM
  #37  
rsbob 
Grupetto Bob
 
rsbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Seattle-ish
Posts: 6,189

Bikes: Bikey McBike Face

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2571 Post(s)
Liked 5,600 Times in 2,907 Posts
you know the old saying, “If it seems too good to be true - it probably - buy it now and regret it later”, or something like that.
__________________
Road 🚴🏾‍♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾‍♂️







rsbob is offline  
Likes For rsbob:
Old 11-10-22, 11:52 AM
  #38  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,217
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18398 Post(s)
Liked 15,494 Times in 7,317 Posts
Originally Posted by Fredo76
Maybe you would. I didn't when I bought a similar one. Mine works great. What are you betting? You'd likely lose...

Not picking on you BTW, the whole thread is full of prejudice...

Maybe brands are for FOOLS!
Sounds like you are hoping for a flame war with the prejudice comment. Sorry to disappoint you, but I am going to rely on common sense, keeping in mind that Internet scams are not something rare. For me, it has nothing to do with where it's coming from and/or the fact that it's not a brand name. It's the fact the description and photos don't match, along with other things (e.g., It's a freewheel, we mean a cassette). You would think that a reputable seller would know more about a product than is exhibited in the listing and that it would include photos of the product as described. The listing has "FOOLS" written all over it.

I want to recommend a book to you. It's called "Blink: The Art of Thinking Without Thinking" by Malcolm Gladwell.

I can just see the thread waiting in the wings: "I bought this component. The listing said 11 speed, but I got an 8 speed, which is what was pictured. Did I get scammed?"
indyfabz is offline  
Likes For indyfabz:
Old 11-10-22, 11:54 AM
  #39  
indyfabz
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 39,217
Mentioned: 211 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 18398 Post(s)
Liked 15,494 Times in 7,317 Posts
Originally Posted by SpedFast
There are quite a few Chinese sellers offering them, so they probably are 11 spd if (big if) you get all the parts that should come with one.
No words.
indyfabz is offline  
Likes For indyfabz:
Old 11-10-22, 12:23 PM
  #40  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,850
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6943 Post(s)
Liked 10,944 Times in 4,677 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote
I guess my time is worth more than yours, as I wouldn't waste it in a (probably futile) effort to save so little money. But you should try it and report back to us.
Originally Posted by smd4
As you may have noticed (well, apparently not), I'm not the one looking for a new cassette.
Umm, but you wrote this:

Originally Posted by smd4
For $9 bucks? I'd buy it just out of curiosity. Seriously, what do you have to lose?
So buy it and report back to us.
Koyote is offline  
Likes For Koyote:
Old 11-10-22, 12:33 PM
  #41  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,758

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3492 Post(s)
Liked 2,911 Times in 1,766 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote
Umm, but you wrote this:



So buy it and report back to us.
"I'd" is a contraction of "I would." Meaning that if I needed or wanted one, for $9 bucks, "I would" buy one just out of curiosity. And since I use neither an 8 nor an 11-speed cassette, it's highly unlikely I will ever need or want to buy one.
smd4 is online now  
Likes For smd4:
Old 11-10-22, 12:37 PM
  #42  
veganbikes
Clark W. Griswold
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 13,467

Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4335 Post(s)
Liked 3,958 Times in 2,646 Posts
The only way I would consider running it is if they paid me to do so and didn't have any rules about riding it more than once. I would take that cassette around the block for $500 and if they wanted a further ride just add another $500 for each additional block.
veganbikes is offline  
Likes For veganbikes:
Old 11-10-22, 12:39 PM
  #43  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,850
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6943 Post(s)
Liked 10,944 Times in 4,677 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
"I'd" is a contraction of "I would." Meaning that if I needed or wanted one, for $9 bucks, "I would" buy one just out of curiosity. And since I use neither an 8 nor an 11-speed cassette, it's highly unlikely I will ever need or want to buy one.
Ah, okay, so you were just talking out of your ass. Now I understand.
Koyote is offline  
Likes For Koyote:
Old 11-10-22, 05:48 PM
  #44  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,758

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3492 Post(s)
Liked 2,911 Times in 1,766 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote
Now I understand.
You clearly don’t. But that’s okay. Not everyone can understand everything.
smd4 is online now  
Old 11-11-22, 09:40 AM
  #45  
Milton Keynes
Senior Member
 
Milton Keynes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 3,947

Bikes: Trek 1100 road bike, Roadmaster gravel/commuter/beater mountain bike

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2281 Post(s)
Liked 1,710 Times in 936 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
For $9 bucks? I'd buy it just out of curiosity. Seriously, what do you have to lose?
9 bucks.
Milton Keynes is offline  
Old 11-11-22, 09:43 AM
  #46  
Milton Keynes
Senior Member
 
Milton Keynes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 3,947

Bikes: Trek 1100 road bike, Roadmaster gravel/commuter/beater mountain bike

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2281 Post(s)
Liked 1,710 Times in 936 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
Technically, true. But really? The perpetual cheapness of folks involved in this expensive hobby never ceases to amaze me.
But if I don't waste my money on things like $9 cassettes, I can save that money and buy a decent cassette.
Milton Keynes is offline  
Old 11-11-22, 09:46 AM
  #47  
Milton Keynes
Senior Member
 
Milton Keynes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 3,947

Bikes: Trek 1100 road bike, Roadmaster gravel/commuter/beater mountain bike

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2281 Post(s)
Liked 1,710 Times in 936 Posts
Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee
The chinese are good at one thing- taking an existing product and mass producing it at super cheap prices.
And super cheap quality.
Milton Keynes is offline  
Old 11-11-22, 09:51 AM
  #48  
Milton Keynes
Senior Member
 
Milton Keynes's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 3,947

Bikes: Trek 1100 road bike, Roadmaster gravel/commuter/beater mountain bike

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2281 Post(s)
Liked 1,710 Times in 936 Posts
Originally Posted by SpedFast
And if they're made of soft pig iron they'll wear out before the chain and I can just keep replacing them.
Yeah, that's what I want to do, spend a lot of time having to replace my cassette/freewheel because the chain wore off the teeth. Maybe you should carry an extra one or two along with you on your bike so you can change it on the side of the road after it fails...
Milton Keynes is offline  
Old 11-11-22, 10:11 AM
  #49  
tkamd73 
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Menomonee Falls, WI
Posts: 1,832

Bikes: 1984 Schwinn Supersport, 1988 Trek 400T, 1977 Trek TX900, 1982 Bianchi Champione del Mondo, 1978 Raleigh Supercourse, 1986 Trek 400 Elance, 1991 Waterford PDG OS Paramount, 1971 Schwinn Sports Tourer, 1985 Trek 670

Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 603 Post(s)
Liked 1,062 Times in 534 Posts
No, all the teeth on all the cogs line up perfectly. None of the cogs on my cassettes line up like that, nor are they supposed to.
Tim
tkamd73 is offline  
Old 11-11-22, 10:17 AM
  #50  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,758

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3492 Post(s)
Liked 2,911 Times in 1,766 Posts
Originally Posted by Milton Keynes
Yeah, that's what I want to do, spend a lot of time having to replace my cassette/freewheel because the chain wore off the teeth.
If it takes you a lot of time to replace your cassette or freewheel, then it would probably be worth it to have a professional do the job.
smd4 is online now  
Likes For smd4:


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.