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Not certain but I think the sign is old enough so the recently exposed panel is from when the 99 was the route through L.A. before it became the 5.
I remember when the freeways here had the thick cable separating the n/s and e/w lanes, before K rails and concrete barriers.
You know, the cables that cut into a car when making contact.
Also in those days the cars coming toward you would blind you with their headlights, before any sort of light barrier was used.
I remember when the freeways here had the thick cable separating the n/s and e/w lanes, before K rails and concrete barriers.
You know, the cables that cut into a car when making contact.
Also in those days the cars coming toward you would blind you with their headlights, before any sort of light barrier was used.
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I would argue there's little doubt about that influence.
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That would be like me arguing my photographer dad had no influence in my hobby development. Like the hundreds of photographs in scores of albums around the house when I was growing up had no impact. Like the huge photo enlarger squeezed into his bedroom, looming almost 8 ft high above me, had no influence on my interests.

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Not certain but I think the sign is old enough so the recently exposed panel is from when the 99 was the route through L.A. before it became the 5.
I remember when the freeways here had the thick cable separating the n/s and e/w lanes, before K rails and concrete barriers.
You know, the cables that cut into a car when making contact.
Also in those days the cars coming toward you would blind you with their headlights, before any sort of light barrier was used.
I remember when the freeways here had the thick cable separating the n/s and e/w lanes, before K rails and concrete barriers.
You know, the cables that cut into a car when making contact.
Also in those days the cars coming toward you would blind you with their headlights, before any sort of light barrier was used.
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Oh, and I drove the 5 when the section going north of there just opened. There was a warning sign to tell you there was no gas for 200 miles!

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It's like an honorary title: "You will address me as the 405."
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Well, I live right off the 210, north of the 118, a couple miles from the 5/14 interchange.

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Ever drive the 99 north of the split with the 5 near Bakersfield? There is a small airport out there and at night it looks like the planes are going to land on the freeway coming toward you. It's quite unsettling.
Oh, and I drove the 5 when the section going north of there just opened. There was a warning sign to tell you there was no gas for 200 miles!
Oh, and I drove the 5 when the section going north of there just opened. There was a warning sign to tell you there was no gas for 200 miles!
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Is it unique to So Cal? I was under the impression that Nor Cal folks do that, too.
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It's rare to hear "the <freeway_number>" around here. And when it is spoken (or written), we interpret it as "out of towner".
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Edit for accuracy: I should say that when we head out to N.B. in late spring we take the 401 as far as Halton Hills, then get the h_ll off onto the 407 toll expressway. This is a relatively recent and very fast bypass route that takes one north of and completely past Toronto/the GTA, and spits one out back onto the 401 just east of Oshawa. Used to have to take the 401 through Toronto: up to 18 lanes + collector lanes full of traffic going nowhere fast.
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otherwise it’s 787, 81, 90 etc

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they've been on the road since they left spring training. Must be front office underlings trying to meet their quota. That's a hard sell despite sweeping the BoSox.

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Same up here: e.g. we take 'the 401' (or the 403, depending) to go to Toronto and points east. Reflects the fact that in Ontario the 4-- series freeways now play such a central role in getting almost anywhere.
Edit for accuracy: I should say that when we head out to N.B. in late spring we take the 401 as far as Halton Hills, then get the h_ll off onto the 407 toll expressway. This is a relatively recent and very fast bypass route that takes one north of and completely past Toronto/the GTA, and spits one out back onto the 401 just east of Oshawa. Used to have to take the 401 through Toronto: up to 16 lanes + collector lanes full of traffic going nowhere fast.
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Yep ... the 401 in winter (especially) can be pretty hairy! The thing is sooooo busy, year round. I guess it would be; if you include Quebec Autoroute 20 from the ON/QUE border to Quebec City, you have (over, I think) half the population of Canada living in proximity to a single route: Quebec City to Windsor ON.

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