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Old 12-07-11, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pgjackson
Felt Z85 and Giant Defy 1. Both look almost like CF frames. It's the reason I refuse to even consider Trek...their welds are horrendous.
The 2 series frames have smoothed welds. There's even a link to a picture of one in this thread.
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Old 12-07-11, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pgjackson
Felt Z85 and Giant Defy 1. Both look almost like CF frames. It's the reason I refuse to even consider Trek...their welds are horrendous.
That being said lumpy welds are not in any way indicative of quality. It just means that the manufacturer didn't add extra material to made a weld look smooth. I personally could care less if my bike has lumpy welds or not.
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Originally Posted by eippo1
So you got one of the last production bikes, eh? They just shut down the production plant in Oregon and all Skeletors will be henceforth custom one-offs. They have one last shipment of Havocstaffs, which are the stiffer bb30 versions. Apparently they were barely breaking even on the Skeletors.
Man, lucked out... Picked up a frameset back in June. Still acquiring parts for the build up. Still need a seat, seat post, wheels & pedals, but have to lay off the spending for a bit. Even happier I picked up one of these...



OP, build looks great!! Ride the crap out of that thing!!
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Originally Posted by wkg
Ok well Hincapie or not, smoothed out welds or not, it's still an ugly bike.

And there's no excuse for that.
Didn't know you were still breast feeding.

Anyway, the marketplace has spoken.
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The one above is not a bad looking bike. But that logo in blue is pure Fisher-Price.
Think you'd do better to buy a new or barely used Caad on Ebay.
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That black Spooky is ****ing bad ass!

HOT!
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Originally Posted by wkg
That being said lumpy welds are not in any way indicative of quality. It just means that the manufacturer didn't add extra material to made a weld look smooth. I personally could care less if my bike has lumpy welds or not.
I know it's not a quality issue, but to me it shows attention to detail. And Trek has some of the globbiest looking welds out there. To me that says mass-production at the fastest rate. Plus it simply looks better and cleaner.
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Originally Posted by lechat
The one above is not a bad looking bike. But that logo in blue is pure Fisher-Price.
Think you'd do better to buy a new or barely used Caad on Ebay.
Concur. I like the flat colors and simple badging...but the logo is very kid-toy looking with a little "Hooters" thrown in.
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Sidenote: I'm surprised there aren't trademark issues considering Skeletor and HavocStaff are exactly the names, spelling, etc of trademarks owned by Hasbro.
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Old 12-08-11, 10:47 AM
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Sidenote: I'm surprised there aren't trademark issues considering Skeletor and HavocStaff are exactly the names, spelling, etc of trademarks owned by Hasbro.
Probably cuz the guys at Hasbro know awesome when they see it.
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Originally Posted by sced
Didn't know you were still breast feeding.

Anyway, the marketplace has spoken.
Hey hey don't get sore just because you ride the world's ugliest bike. You bought it your own self.
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Old 12-08-11, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Commodus
Hey hey don't get sore just because you ride the world's ugliest bike. You bought it your own self.


I liked the secondhand/hearsay info about it too. Famous people rode my bike too. No really!
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Originally Posted by wkg
Spookys are pretty awesome.

Sweet bike man.

I want one.

Whats the weight on that frame?
I agree its looks sweet. I want one bad
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Old 12-08-11, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ColinL


I liked the secondhand/hearsay info about it too. Famous people rode my bike too. No really!
https://www.cyfac.fr/Pages/News/Index.aspx?NewsId=158

This model should look familiar. The rider is Cyril Dessel.


Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but that Spooky looks like it was fabbed and finished as quickly as possible. But hey, I'm just an ME that worked in Alcoa's aerospace and automotive R&D for several years. What do you do for a living?
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Originally Posted by sced
https://www.cyfac.fr/Pages/News/Index.aspx?NewsId=158

This model should look familiar. The rider is Cyril Dessel.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but that Spooky looks like it was fabbed and finished as quickly as possible. But hey, I'm just an ME that worked in Alcoa's aerospace and automotive R&D for several years. What do you do for a living?
Wow that's weird, that TT bike looks better as a TT bike...whodathunkit, right?

If you're really such a smarty pants, I'd think you would know what a nice weld looks like, and appreciate efficiency in manufacturing.

Then again, you did say it was fabbed and finished as quickly as possible. I'm sure that's very true. I'm a bit of a loss as to why an ME would think that was a bad thing though...I guess your deadlines were a bit more lenient than mine are!
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Originally Posted by sced
https://www.cyfac.fr/Pages/News/Index.aspx?NewsId=158

This model should look familiar. The rider is Cyril Dessel.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but that Spooky looks like it was fabbed and finished as quickly as possible. But hey, I'm just an ME that worked in Alcoa's aerospace and automotive R&D for several years. What do you do for a living?
Your previous post was correct, the market has spoken and the market has stated that those old Cyfacs are ugly. That's why they don't look like that anymore. Also the market has spoken that few people want a new (decent looking) Cyfac.

And yeah, a some famous professional cyclists rode Cyfacs. Maybe some of their parents did too. But then again professional cyclists ride bikes. Even the best cyclists in the world ride bikes. They don't get to chose what bikes they ride though. Once they retire they do but even the retired ones don't ride Cyfacs.

Also nobody cares about your job. "Oh I'm an engineer I work with airplanes and cars I'm really important and I know what a smooth weld looks like."

Why do you care what anyone else on here does for a living anyways? That's not how dick sizing with cycling works.
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My welds are ugly. I should have told JP he needed a little more attention to detail.

Nice bike, OP.


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Originally Posted by sbxx1985
My welds are ugly. I should have told JP he needed a little more attention to detail.

Nice bike, OP.


Now you see...maybe you just need to have tried to make a weld like that to appreciate it.
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That is the way welds look! (You know this, I realize. )

When there is no evidence of a bead at all like the Cyfac (and other bikes) then it's been sanded and they might have even added bondo or a similar material to the area to make it perfectly smooth.
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Originally Posted by ColinL
That is the way welds look! (You know this, I realize. )

When there is no evidence of a bead at all like the Cyfac (and other bikes) then it's been sanded and they might have even added bondo or a similar material to the area to make it perfectly smooth.
Is that a problem? They do this on custom motorcycles all the time. If it doesn't effect the integrity of the weld, why not at least take a moment or two to make it look nice? This was a big selling point for me with the Z85 and Defy 1.
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I'm all for USA-made lumpy welds, cheap paint, and decals being available for $700 + shipping if people want them.

I just showed my Cyfac as an example of nice looking welding and paint. I bought it used for less than that Spooky.
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Originally Posted by pgjackson
Is that a problem? They do this on custom motorcycles all the time. If it doesn't effect the integrity of the weld, why not at least take a moment or two to make it look nice? This was a big selling point for me with the Z85 and Defy 1.
Because it violates the purity of the process. When you look at your frame you should be able to see that it was made beautifully.

Any weld can be smoothed out. You can't see the care and skill put into it.
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Originally Posted by ColinL
Sidenote: I'm surprised there aren't trademark issues considering Skeletor and HavocStaff are exactly the names, spelling, etc of trademarks owned by Hasbro.
It's not an issue because they are very different product lines. No one would ever confuse a bicycle frame for a He-Man character.

If Spooky were to create a series of comic books, cartoons or toy figures with those names, Hasbro's lawyers would be all over them in no time.
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Originally Posted by Commodus
Because it violates the purity of the process.
This is silly. You must wear your clothes inside out.
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Nice looking bike.

My USA-made CAAD9 has lumpy welds, but that's just how aluminum bikes are.
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