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I was unable to access it again today, even with https:// which of course doesn't work properly because Bryan refuses to update the security certificate. BROL came about when usenet was becoming a troll-ridden wasteland, and it was a welcome respite for us for a long time. I'd like to see it fixed and rejuvinated, but I'm beginning to despair that it ain't gonna happen.
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Probably all my fault, since I've left the dark side and come back to the light. Not that I posted there much; it's the butterfly effect: One long time 'bent rider in Portland goes wedgie, and the whole thing collapses.
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I did like to pop in though just to see what was going on and there was always the chance that I might be able to answer a question based on my experiences. I have been a member of Bentrider since nearly the beginning and it is sad to possibly be witnessing it's death throes. I have only managed to get into it once a few weeks ago and only for a couple of minutes. Bryan had most recently said that it is a Plesk issue which sounds to me that it is something to be handled more at the ISP level. I just wish he would be more forthcoming about what he does or does not want to do about it. It's too bad because last year there was a member who said that he would be happy to take on the responsibility if Bryan no longer wanted to be involved. He said he would take on the hosting requirements and would upgrade the software to a modern version as well as get everything on https. Obviously, nothing came of it.
I agree with Steamer that if folks need to move on to something else, then Recumbent Riders.org would probably be best for now.
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I was on BROL today for 30 minutes. Reading. Even did one post. Then suddenly, no access. I don't get it.
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BROL had been declining in functionality for a while. That's too bad because there's a lot of knowledge, experience, and data in its archives that are essentially inaccessible.
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The loss of BROL historical content is the big loss for me.
If I had a bent related question, that is the first place I would search. The answer was not always there for sure but on many topics, it was.
If as I understand, a member had offered to take it over and upgrade the forum, why would the owner let it just die. I doubt the site made money. Very perplexing.
If I had a bent related question, that is the first place I would search. The answer was not always there for sure but on many topics, it was.
If as I understand, a member had offered to take it over and upgrade the forum, why would the owner let it just die. I doubt the site made money. Very perplexing.
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Well, at around 6 a.m. today, I got in for the first time in about a month. The site was actually working without any hitches - until it wasn't. I made it about 5-10 minutes. As I was perusing different threads, it completely hung on me and that was it. I couldn't get back in. Bryan did state on Facebook that he would probably end up taking member razinCain's advice and upgrade the Vbulletin software and move everything to the Vbulletin cloud. However, he then said that it was going to cost money and that he just can't handle this kind of pressure right now. People have offered to help financially but Bryan's last statement seems to indicate that he just doesn't want to take the time nor the responsibility to tackle this right now. It's anybody's guess as to when it might truly be functioning again.
Quick edit: I just saw over on Recumbent Riders.org that Bryan had posted on BROL that most of the issues have been fixed for now and that he will me moving to another server soon which should put things completely back on track. I have since been able to get back in but I think it might be hit or miss until the server migration.
Quick edit: I just saw over on Recumbent Riders.org that Bryan had posted on BROL that most of the issues have been fixed for now and that he will me moving to another server soon which should put things completely back on track. I have since been able to get back in but I think it might be hit or miss until the server migration.
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I just got in and apparently without any errors. So I think the certificate issue is fixed. Bryan stated that not only was his son born prematurely, but he also came down with a fairly serious case of Covid and was down for the count. I know how that goes (11 days of high temperature and another 8 in the hospital on supplemental oxygen.) He stated that they will be going to a new server soon, so there may be more disruption, although planned this time.
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I'm not a bent rider, and don't anticipate becoming one anytime soon..but..you guys seem to be communicating very well here. Using this forum to discuss what forum to go to..maybe none of my business..but what's wrong with this forum?
It's well maintained, moderated well..and..well..it's up and running.
It's well maintained, moderated well..and..well..it's up and running.
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I'm not a bent rider, and don't anticipate becoming one anytime soon..but..you guys seem to be communicating very well here. Using this forum to discuss what forum to go to..maybe none of my business..but what's wrong with this forum?
It's well maintained, moderated well..and..well..it's up and running.
It's well maintained, moderated well..and..well..it's up and running.
The other factor is that his sub-forum here on BF is pretty dead, and is even more dead than the other alternatives being discussed. It helps to start out with as good of a base of participants as possible.
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I'm not a bent rider, and don't anticipate becoming one anytime soon..but..you guys seem to be communicating very well here. Using this forum to discuss what forum to go to..maybe none of my business..but what's wrong with this forum?
It's well maintained, moderated well..and..well..it's up and running.
It's well maintained, moderated well..and..well..it's up and running.
I am anything if not frank, a lot of Bikeforums is more entertainment. It isn't very serious. It is almost impossible to have a serious discussion and on point; it very quickly goes off rail for various reasons.
Plus, there is 20 years of legacy data in the bentrider forum. Very hard to create the content again.
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I looked up the Slicey Dicey youtube channel. Yikes. What a mess.
It would be nice if he gave up BROL to the member willing to run it.
The lack of a security certificate for what is it....6 months.....is troubling.
I was a member of a vibrant much larger forum that was sold to a corporation for a small amount of money. All the key members left and forum died. There are probably a dozen such key contributors to BROL. If they go, the forum dies. It probably is already dead.
It would be nice if he gave up BROL to the member willing to run it.
The lack of a security certificate for what is it....6 months.....is troubling.
I was a member of a vibrant much larger forum that was sold to a corporation for a small amount of money. All the key members left and forum died. There are probably a dozen such key contributors to BROL. If they go, the forum dies. It probably is already dead.
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Note: Bike Forums doesn't generally allow links to other sites but I sort of let it slide because of some good alternative information being put forth. However, pretty much all options have been posted and some were critical of another board which is also not considered good form here.
Therefore, time to close. Nothing personal, discussing other boards is contrary to BF rules.
Therefore, time to close. Nothing personal, discussing other boards is contrary to BF rules.
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