What is a hybrid a hybrid of?
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EXACTLY! Because only YOU and the other club riders or whatever clique YOU belong to ride REAL bicycles!
Nothing quite like validating stereotypes and cliches', is there?
You can ban me now, because my primary rides are a 2019 Trek FX2 and a 2011 Fuji Absolute. My 10,000 miles on them mean NOTHING, because I'm obviously NOT a REAL cyclist! I'm sure some of you "real cyclists" ride that far in much less time than it took me.
Nothing quite like validating stereotypes and cliches', is there?
You can ban me now, because my primary rides are a 2019 Trek FX2 and a 2011 Fuji Absolute. My 10,000 miles on them mean NOTHING, because I'm obviously NOT a REAL cyclist! I'm sure some of you "real cyclists" ride that far in much less time than it took me.
When you're done putting words in my mouth, try to understand that the overwhelming majority of people who purchase hybrids are more casual riders. There's nothing wrong with that, and it's nothing to get angry and defensive about. All I meant was that I've sold a lot of bikes over the years, and I know who their target market is.
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I rode about 10,000 miles on a FX3 over three years (increasingly using other bikes by the end of the 3 years), and that's definitely the way I used it. It was a surprisingly fast bike, I regularly frustrated the hell out of some Cat 6 drop bar types. It was pretty fast on the level, but like I said above, it climbed better than any road bike I've ever had.
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I'm genuinely curious...What makes a "fitness" bike different from other hybrids? Looking at the upper end of the Trek FX series - which they market as "fitness" bikes - the theme seems to be "road bike speed, but more comfortable". Basically, a flat bar road bike, rather than the multi-surface capabilities often associated with other hybrid varieties. Is this fairly accurate?
*I don't ride in order to attain/maintain/improve 'fitness'. The 'fitness' thing is a nice by-product of the activity, but I ride because I love cycling -- have done since I was a kid.
** Current bike shown in post #24 this thread.
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When you're done putting words in my mouth, try to understand that the overwhelming majority of people who purchase hybrids are more casual riders. There's nothing wrong with that, and it's nothing to get angry and defensive about. All I meant was that I've sold a lot of bikes over the years, and I know who their target market is.
Seems that many people have this stereotype of cyclists being some kind of arrogant, clique-ish, "yes as a matter of fact, I am better than you" types? Not fair, is it?
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The acerbic sarcasm of your earlier post suggests otherwise, but sorry if I misinterpreted.
Maybe it comes with my age, but I don't much concern myself with stuff that's out of my control. I'm certainly not going to embark on a crusade to rectify unfair stereotypes. You do you, of course.
Maybe it comes with my age, but I don't much concern myself with stuff that's out of my control. I'm certainly not going to embark on a crusade to rectify unfair stereotypes. You do you, of course.
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Most things we call hybrids are not really hybrids of anything. They are just normal bikes. The fact that they fall between MTBs and paved road racing bikes in a few metrics does not make them a “hybrid” any more than an average height person is a hybrid of a tall and short person.
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The acerbic sarcasm of your earlier post suggests otherwise, but sorry if I misinterpreted.
Maybe it comes with my age, but I don't much concern myself with stuff that's out of my control. I'm certainly not going to embark on a crusade to rectify unfair stereotypes. You do you, of course.
Maybe it comes with my age, but I don't much concern myself with stuff that's out of my control. I'm certainly not going to embark on a crusade to rectify unfair stereotypes. You do you, of course.
As for age, surely you can't be older than me!
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Majority of bike users around the world do it as a hobby, they ride for fitness and recreation, commuting and for fun. The ones who ride for sport or performance and the ones who ride out of necessity are both in a minority
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Does riding for performance/sport exclude having fun? That's not how I remember it.
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Not at all....Some people get fun from competing and chasing numbers, some people get fun from commuting, some people get fun from off road bikepacking or loaded touring, some people get fun from riding singletrack on their mountain bike others get fun from going on a casual ride on an MUP. To each his own.
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Not at all....Some people get fun from competing and chasing numbers, some people get fun from commuting, some people get fun from off road bikepacking or loaded touring, some people get fun from riding singletrack on their mountain bike others get fun from going on a casual ride on an MUP. To each his own.
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Some of you must be new around here.
Never imagined the “serious” comment would have such legs.
Never imagined the “serious” comment would have such legs.
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I also said "probably", because it was an estimate based on my current mediocre understanding of bike use in areas that are significantly different that the one I live in. The small amount of information I have seems to indicate that there are many highly-populated areas (primarily in Asia) where travel by bicycle is a primary mode of transportation for a whole lot of people (necessity, not recreation). I'm not saying you're wrong. Your statement just came across as very sure, and a direct contradiction to my current thoughts. I'm just wondering if you have some factual data on the subject so that I might expand/improve my knowledge.
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Can't we all just get along ... lol
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Right. And it's not just a "sport"!
When you get down to it, there's how many billion cyclists in the world? Most likely, our personal knowledge about how other people ride on what equipment is barely going to scratch the surface. There's a lot of people in the world who ride on extremely cheap bicycles as a matter of making a living, what the hell is more serious than that?
When you get down to it, there's how many billion cyclists in the world? Most likely, our personal knowledge about how other people ride on what equipment is barely going to scratch the surface. There's a lot of people in the world who ride on extremely cheap bicycles as a matter of making a living, what the hell is more serious than that?
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The way I see it, riding for sport or performance means racing and competing against other riders or training to achieve some competitive goal. All other non-competitive forms of cycling are just recreational cycling, casual cycling or commuting.
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I suspect that if you asked a random person to draw or describe a bike, they'd produce something like a hybrid.
But yeah, to the "serious" cyclist a hybrid is the worst of all options, but to the average person who doesn't have a garage full of different bike options, it's just a bike and gets them about.
But yeah, to the "serious" cyclist a hybrid is the worst of all options, but to the average person who doesn't have a garage full of different bike options, it's just a bike and gets them about.
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EXACTLY! Because only YOU and the other club riders or whatever clique YOU belong to ride REAL bicycles!
Nothing quite like validating stereotypes and cliches', is there?
You can ban me now, because my primary rides are a 2019 Trek FX2 and a 2011 Fuji Absolute. My 10,000 miles on them mean NOTHING, because I'm obviously NOT a REAL cyclist! I'm sure some of you "real cyclists" ride that far in much less time than it took me.
Nothing quite like validating stereotypes and cliches', is there?
You can ban me now, because my primary rides are a 2019 Trek FX2 and a 2011 Fuji Absolute. My 10,000 miles on them mean NOTHING, because I'm obviously NOT a REAL cyclist! I'm sure some of you "real cyclists" ride that far in much less time than it took me.
Either of my 7.6s ÷ your FX2=3
Since I have two 7.6s...
3x2=6!
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I'm genuinely curious...What makes a "fitness" bike different from other hybrids? Looking at the upper end of the Trek FX series - which they market as "fitness" bikes - the theme seems to be "road bike speed, but more comfortable". Basically, a flat bar road bike, rather than the multi-surface capabilities often associated with other hybrid varieties. Is this fairly accurate?