ultraman6970

Please fix the bike and let us know...

Giant40

But the questions I asked afterward were met with hostility; questions about how the wear happened so much quicker than on my other bikes, and how to avoid it in the future. I don't think those kinds of questions are so unreasonable. If you think so, then you and anyone who agrees with you obviously don't understand the purpose of a discussion forum

cranky old road 

Giant40

Speechless, Cranky?

Airburst

Contango did answer that question by saying that unless you've got some serious mileage on the other bikes, that chain didn't wear that much quicker than the others.

Anyway, a wet weather bike will usually go through chains faster anyway, because water splashing up from the road gets on the chain and carries dirt into it, where it accelerates wear.

cny-bikeman

As I posted many of the answers and probably most of the text, and have read again every response I will post once more after all. You are flat out wrong in your characterization of the responses to your question about why it happened (post 42). The following posts answered your question about cause with little if anything one could characterize as hostility: 43 45 48 54 55 63. You did receive some posts that most likely reflected frustration or even anger - emotions somewhat understandable when it took you til post 42 to begrudgingly acknowledge what you knew almost a year ago, and witheld both that and other relevent information. On top of it you were ready to cast aside everything that had been said when you came up with your own explanation in post 66.

Maybe some of the responses were less than graceful, but in the entire thread I saw very little openness to learning or correcting mistaken beliefs on your part, barely any gratitude and absolutely no apology. Instead you accuse others of attacking you.

This subforum's function is primarily to ask for and give advice and opinions, not merely to discuss. I can discuss dozens of reasons for chain skip and you could pick one at random that you like. If that's the approach you want try the Bicycletutor.com forums. The moderators are openly hostile to anyone who suggests taking the bike to a shop and the participants are overly generous in providing "it happened to me once and it was ___________ "solutions."

contango 

I've really tried to give you the benefit of the doubt throughout this thread but seriously, listen to what people are saying.

Your chain is trashed, your cassette is almost certainly trashed and your chainrings may be trashed. Replace the chain and cassette, and be prepared to replace the chinrings. If you're not going to take the advice of people who can see textbook examples of trashed chains from the description why do you bother asking for advice?

If you can't afford it, you've got too much stuff. Ride another bike, or sell one bike so you can afford to maintain the others. But do something, otherwise you're just going to end up with multiple bikes that all have trashed drivetrains and you won't be able to ride any of them. You'll also struggle to sell any of them because anyone taking a test ride will soon realise that the first thing they'll have to do is drop some extra cash on the maintenance you should have done.

If your tyres are bald you replace the tyres. It's as easy as that. You don't argue that you can't afford new tyres so hunt in desperation for some other cheaper fix that might help, you either replace the tyres now or stop riding until you can afford new tyres. It's the same with your chain. Wrap it up any way you want, if it's extended by 4% it's ruined. Look at the picture of the cassette you posted, and look how the teeth on the largest sprocket compare to the teeth two sprockets in. If you really want, go buy a replacement cassette and you'll be able to see the difference if you hold the two side by side.

Seriously when my chain was 1% extended I could see the difference between my cassette and a new one and I had no idea what I was looking for. Your chain is four times as extended as mine was.

FMB42

Let's see...knowledgeable people in here tell you that you need at least a new chain and cassette. Your local bike shop tells you the same. Others in here wisely suggest that you need a new chain, a new cassette, and new chainrings.

Yet, you still don't seem to "get it" or, you complain about the cost.

Next, you defect the obvious by wondering how this chain/cassette/chainring wear occurred in such "a short time" (in comparison to your other bikes). Well, I can tell you that you can, and will, experience accelerated drive-drain wear if you're riding on rain soaked and/or salted/sandy roads.

At this point you can either change the above mentioned parts and be done with it. Otherwise, you can continue to ignore and/or disagree with what should be obvious to you by now.

Btw, there are many free online bicycle maintenance/repair guides that can both help you with this particular problem and aid you in avoiding such troubles in the future. Below are just 2 such bicycle maint/repair guide links:

https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help

https://sheldonbrown.com/repair/index.html

Again, your reluctance to accept what many in here have mentioned suggests that you might just be fishing.

The fact is that many of us in here have grown weary of attempting to answer "my tire is flat...what should I do?" questions and other "easy to resource" issues that anyone should be able to figure out by simply doing a little research.

But then again, many of us in here learned how to maintain/repair various bicycle types when we were just kids (long before there was an Internet). Some of us even managed to learn how to completely disassemble various types of bicycles before we reached our teens. This level of experience can sometimes come across as a form of arrogance. But believe me, many (if not most) of us are only try to help.

Anyway, I'd like to think that you'll take the time to make use of the above maint/repair links...

ultraman6970

Dude the guy just dont get it, if he wants to fix his bike the way he wants to, then good for him but this thread is really getting many out of their nerves hehehe

contango 

I've been helping a friend get an old bike back on the road - he hasn't got the spare cash to buy a new one. One of his tyres was completely destroyed, the rubber had perished. For some reason replacing the chain didn't work, but it was cheaper than buying a new tyre.

KLiNCK

Was that chain air-dried or was the tire over inflated?

FBinNY 

It wasn't hostility it was frustration.

The folks who post here aren't paid. They do this in a sincere effort to help those less experienced than they are. It's totally FREE from the goodness of their own hearts. I don't speak for others, but I never actually care if folks take my advice, I live by the concept that I should provide water, but it's strictly up to the horse whether to actually drink it. That said, when the horse repeatedly asks for water, and I repeatedly pump it from the well, then he should either drink or stop asking.

You've gotten plenty of advice and you can take or leave it, but don't expect unlimited patience from those who's prior advice you refuse to accept. And if you don't like the advice and choose to ignore it, don't blame those who've given up for quitting.

contango 

No idea, it was a random chain I found in a drawer of old junk. Maybe I should have cleaned it first. That'll fix the tyre problem, I'll let him know.

KLiNCK

Thanks for the "heads-up!"

ultraman6970

Hahahahaha... 3 stooges stuff eh?

bkaapcke

I've seen this before. Assert that because the parts aren't broken, they can't be the problem. One of my ride buddies is this way. "If it ain't broke, it ain't the problem". I don't care how much you explain or argue, it's still not the problem. The only cure is to let them make several trips to the LBS. There's nothing else you can do. bk

hueyhoolihan

IMO, those asking for free advice on a topic and not taking it, are exhibiting no better or worse judgement than those persistent in giving it...

MetalPedaler

ultraman6970

Seriously? that movie was not bad at all Was funny

MetalPedaler

That was a movie? No wonder the pic is in color!

Was it Around The World In A Daze? I saw that when I was a kid!

fietsbob

The Beatings will continue until Crew Morale improves..

Juha

With that, I believe pretty much everything that can be said has been said now. Closing the thread. Any questions, please PM me.

--Juha, a Forum Mod