phrantic09

Is it gunnite? Fiberglass?

we don’t really have room for much bigger given the layout of our yard. The pool walls have to be at least 15 feet from any property line.

Mojo31

Gunnite. Wouldn’t do fiberglass.

We also have chlorine sanitizing. Our builder talked us out of salt water.

We had similar size constraints at our last house. I would still do the pool with that constraint, just need to watch kids jumping in.

big john

Can you duplicate the noise in the shop? Try turning the bike upside down, put the pedals in the horizontal position and lean on them with both hands. Rotate the crank 180 degrees and try again.
Does it creak when out of the saddle? Saddle and seatpost creaks can try to frame the bb.

fwiw when my bb creaked on my old Shimano 6600 i just slathered everything with grease and it's quiet since then. I've never put threadlocker on a bb cup but I do use a little on the bolts holding the rings.

phrantic09

Vinyl is the best option here, which is also least expensive. I’ve heard good and bad on salt, seems to be more care free, but worse for the pool overall. We need a heater, which isn’t that expensive surprisingly and already have gas run about 10 feet from where the mechanicals will be.

I’m tempted to do a lot myself- have access to an excavator and someone to do the digging, mostly just need the actual pool built, then we can handle back fill and concrete decking subcontracted out. Problem is none of the builders here really allow that.

big john

I think that's what EricF does for a living.

genejockey 

These are very much the older French style, heavy, thick copper with the cast iron handle riveted on with big copper rivets. The lids have stick handles, rather than loops.

I may have found a place in San Francisco for retinning, so that's a relief. They're so heavy, I can only imagine what shipping would cost!

Mojo31

I agree, Eric would be the best knowledge base.

Salt water corrodes a lot of materials. For example, we have flagstone coping around the perimeter, and salt water just dissolves it. The builder also said the electronic salt converters don’t last long and are expensive.

genejockey 

I determined that the creak I was hearing last Sunday on the Canyon was the seatpost - or at least NOT the BB - by standing up and pedaling and the sound didn't return.

OTOH, the *tick* I heard on the old Lotus didn't go away with standing, and it turned out to be chainring bolts.

Eric F 

Yes, and no. My company builds large competition pools like you would find at a high school or university. We don't do hotels or apartments, and we made the mistake of attempting residential work a few times. Homeowners are the worst people to work for (generally speaking). For the most part, any project less than $1M probably is too small for us. Most of our projects are in the $2-3M range.

That said, with any contractor you're thinking about hiring, verify that they have a valid/current contractors license, and preferably a specialty license for swimming pools. Ask for a list of references of previous clients, and make the effort to contact them. It's totally okay to ask the contractor why their price is higher or lower than their competitor. If you don't get an answer that makes sense or seems like BS, that's a warning sign. A competent, experienced contractor should be able to explain to you exactly what's different, in language you can understand. Anticipate that there will be changes that happen during construction (unforseen issues, etc), and have about 10% of the contract amount available for those issues. An unfounded assumption - the lowest price is probably cutting corners you don't want cut, and the highest price is probably being a little greedy.

genejockey 

So, I shouldn't hire the Bobz Discount Poolz, just because they tossed a flyer in a baggie with a rock on my lawn?

Eric F 

Maybe. Maybe not. Folks good at building stuff aren't necessarily good at marketing....or spelling.

I'm the office/paperwork guy because that's my best skillset. My partner is our construction superintendent because that's what he's good at. We would do equally mediocre trying to do each other's jobs.

Mojo31

Eric hit the nail on the head regarding bids.

In the construction industry, we talk about the lowest qualified bidder, not the lowest bidder.

MoAlpha

Definitely a BB noise with a grind I can even feel in the feet. Another few wraps of tape seems to have fixed it, at least for now. The pinch bolts on the crank were nice and greasy.

rjones28 

Love is a strong word for plastic fenders. But, I have a set of Planet Bike full coverage fenders that have worked well for me.

datlas 

Yeah, love should be reserved for plastic cars, not fenders.

#saturn

Eric F 

Absolutely. Swimming pools are a specialty trade. Verifying that your contractor has successful experience with the work you are asking them to perform is an important step.

rjones28 

Single track pic of the day.

MoAlpha

Thanks. Leaning in that direction.

rjones28 

Mrs. rjones28 wants to start doing some indoor training this winter, so we need another trainer. Turns out there is a glut of smart trainers.

Got a great deal on an H3, so Mrs. rjones28 will inherit the M2.

bampilot06

This Sunday, or Next Sunday? If it’s next Sunday, I can come by and you can watch me ride your bike.

bampilot06

Found this little guy in my yard today. Never seen a lizard like this before. I actually thought it was a baby snake at first.

seedsbelize2

GTFO of the house! Do you have a favorite bar, to watch the game?

Mojo31

This Sunday.

After reading about your escapades, I may not ever let you ride my bike!

Trsnrtr

i haven’t had time to look at the video; been busy. I did read some reviews somewhere about the pico gizmo and people didn’t seem impressed.

Mojo31

No bars around here. This is the Bible Belt, after all. At least not in the sense of the neighborhood bars that are common further north.

I can barely walk right now. Went to dinner, and had to have my wife bring the car around to pick me up after. I am a hurtin MF right now.