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02-26-23, 11:01 PM
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Well, if that's what we're up to:
This is a 1987 Bianchi Campione d'Italia that I bought new from Wheel and Heel in Fishkill, NY. It sat in my parents' basement for a few decades until I heard about Eroica California, which brought me to the C&V world. After some basic repairs to get it ready for its first run, I decided that I wanted to be able to run 700c x 32mm tires in the next edition.
Mark dimpled the chainstays and raised the brake bridge. I'd found a Waterford fork with a box crown and more tire clearance; Mark re-raked the fork so that it would end up with the same trail. And traded the rear brake cable routing from guides along the top tube to slotted cable stops. 32mm tires fit with the pads just at the bottom of "standard" (short reach) brake calipers. Now I can ride the bike as shown 95% of the year but in an hour's work swap out the handlebars and brakes, pedals, and seatpost and saddle and be ready for Eroica's guidelines. It's a better bike today than when I first bought it, thanks to his work.
This is a 1987 Bianchi Campione d'Italia that I bought new from Wheel and Heel in Fishkill, NY. It sat in my parents' basement for a few decades until I heard about Eroica California, which brought me to the C&V world. After some basic repairs to get it ready for its first run, I decided that I wanted to be able to run 700c x 32mm tires in the next edition.
Mark dimpled the chainstays and raised the brake bridge. I'd found a Waterford fork with a box crown and more tire clearance; Mark re-raked the fork so that it would end up with the same trail. And traded the rear brake cable routing from guides along the top tube to slotted cable stops. 32mm tires fit with the pads just at the bottom of "standard" (short reach) brake calipers. Now I can ride the bike as shown 95% of the year but in an hour's work swap out the handlebars and brakes, pedals, and seatpost and saddle and be ready for Eroica's guidelines. It's a better bike today than when I first bought it, thanks to his work.
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02-27-23, 05:27 AM
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mhespenheide , that is a gorgeous color- do you know what it/the paint is*? It looks very close to (what I think are) the remnants of the original paint on a Holdsworth Pro frame I'm trying to decide how to finish. ( Drillium Dude 's bare/matte Casati is an interesting option, too.....)
*also curious about your brake levers..
*also curious about your brake levers..
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02-27-23, 01:08 PM
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mhespenheide , that is a gorgeous color- do you know what it/the paint is*? It looks very close to (what I think are) the remnants of the original paint on a Holdsworth Pro frame I'm trying to decide how to finish. ( Drillium Dude 's bare/matte Casati is an interesting option, too.....)
*also curious about your brake levers..
*also curious about your brake levers..
The brake levers are the Tektro RL340. Pretty standard and not expensive. They're nice, though. They have a good (larger and more sculpted) shape if you're used to modern brake/shift levers, and they come with a Campagnolo-style quick-release button built in that help you open up the calipers even farther to get around fat tires.
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02-27-23, 02:09 PM
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Thanks! That's a powdercoat by Groody Brothers, RAL 6027. "Celeste" is always a hard color to pin down. This might not be the most accurate version of it, but I like the added blue hue compared to some other versions, so I'm happy with it.
The brake levers are the Tektro RL340. Pretty standard and not expensive. They're nice, though. They have a good (larger and more sculpted) shape if you're used to modern brake/shift levers, and they come with a Campagnolo-style quick-release button built in that help you open up the calipers even farther to get around fat tires.
The brake levers are the Tektro RL340. Pretty standard and not expensive. They're nice, though. They have a good (larger and more sculpted) shape if you're used to modern brake/shift levers, and they come with a Campagnolo-style quick-release button built in that help you open up the calipers even farther to get around fat tires.
Thought maybe they were the Tektro levers, but couldn't tell for sure. I've got a pair on my Trek, & I like 'em, but with the gum hoods they have a different look. The Campy levers on my Holdsworth don't do my hands any favors & I've been wondering how the black hooded Tektros would look- you've provided a data point in favor!
02-28-23, 06:36 PM
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Did a 30 mile shake down today and the campy seatpost is awesome for getting just the right angle. Also 42s rock on gravel shoulders. Raid brakes are killer, not withstanding the blood curdling scream the rear one does. I may adjust that out but I might not. It makes cars stop right now! The only thing wrong with my bike is the rider is out of shape.
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02-28-23, 06:45 PM
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Did a 30 mile shake down today and the campy seatpost is awesome for getting just the right angle. Also 42s rock on gravel shoulders. Raid brakes are killer, not withstanding the blood curdling scream the rear one does. I may adjust that out but I might not. It makes cars stop right now! The only thing wrong with my bike is the rider is out of shape.
02-28-23, 06:48 PM
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The front is fine but you need to definitely unload your torque. The rear is really good. On today's ride I never needed the granny. 44-36 is pretty darn low.
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02-28-23, 06:56 PM
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02-28-23, 07:15 PM
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26. My feeling is if I'm going to need a bailout I want it very low. With freewheels I usually go half-step and granny but with seven gears out back I can get things close enough for my taste and the last two cogs 28-36 aren't any bigger of a jump than a sturmey archer aw hub. If I can live with it there, I can live with it here.
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02-28-23, 07:22 PM
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New fork and rack for the travel Bilenky. Recent, completed December 2022. Very trick work on what started as an ugly duckling paper weight of a fork crown.
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02-28-23, 07:28 PM
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02-28-23, 08:00 PM
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Did a 30 mile shake down today and the campy seatpost is awesome for getting just the right angle. Also 42s rock on gravel shoulders. Raid brakes are killer, not withstanding the blood curdling scream the rear one does. I may adjust that out but I might not. It makes cars stop right now! The only thing wrong with my bike is the rider is out of shape.
Coffee break
Trail bench
Friends house
Front porch of horrors.
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You know, I'm being half-serious here, but I saw a pair of crankarms while perusing Ebay last night which would almost mirror that slight curvature of your seatpost:
Strip the anodizing, give them a brushed finish, et voila: instant conversation starter!
Just in case you might be interested: https://www.ebay.com/itm/185719843059?hash=item2b3dc3e8f3:g
wwAAOSwPLFjJB8c&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsBra8SYaM5DsRztufYsxIHFKIx2 1Up6qg%2BSNOrftW4LgTxEtucTRefLGvX5fSujKxUD3R32uGkMSFxHRrDdD0P69yUXN8Ub3LodcLefeWjD%2F8YlqnOlCiIeNeSt ajHU%2FYDg2xj%2B8hZCpTiYCDFB%2BjZ4oIJeNNN9VFV0VRl6DfTIJFsFM5NF0argoiFeGy1OfNnuQ%2Fxk9Kgci5Mwj82U894V Ab5V9GutUSByEaFaHaPBz%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4zVzbPTYQ
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Strip the anodizing, give them a brushed finish, et voila: instant conversation starter!
Just in case you might be interested: https://www.ebay.com/itm/185719843059?hash=item2b3dc3e8f3:g
wwAAOSwPLFjJB8c&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsBra8SYaM5DsRztufYsxIHFKIx2 1Up6qg%2BSNOrftW4LgTxEtucTRefLGvX5fSujKxUD3R32uGkMSFxHRrDdD0P69yUXN8Ub3LodcLefeWjD%2F8YlqnOlCiIeNeSt ajHU%2FYDg2xj%2B8hZCpTiYCDFB%2BjZ4oIJeNNN9VFV0VRl6DfTIJFsFM5NF0argoiFeGy1OfNnuQ%2Fxk9Kgci5Mwj82U894V Ab5V9GutUSByEaFaHaPBz%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4zVzbPTYQDD
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You know, I'm being half-serious here, but I saw a pair of crankarms while perusing Ebay last night which would almost mirror that slight curvature of your seatpost:
Strip the anodizing, give them a brushed finish, et voila: instant conversation starter!
Just in case you might be interested: https://www.ebay.com/itm/185719843059?hash=item2b3dc3e8f3:gwwAAOSwPLFjJB8c&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsBra8SYaM5DsRztufYsxIHFKIx2 1Up6qg%2BSNOrftW4LgTxEtucTRefLGvX5fSujKxUD3R32uGkMSFxHRrDdD0P69yUXN8Ub3LodcLefeWjD%2F8YlqnOlCiIeNeSt ajHU%2FYDg2xj%2B8hZCpTiYCDFB%2BjZ4oIJeNNN9VFV0VRl6DfTIJFsFM5NF0argoiFeGy1OfNnuQ%2Fxk9Kgci5Mwj82U894V Ab5V9GutUSByEaFaHaPBz%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4zVzbPTYQ
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Strip the anodizing, give them a brushed finish, et voila: instant conversation starter!
Just in case you might be interested: https://www.ebay.com/itm/185719843059?hash=item2b3dc3e8f3:g
wwAAOSwPLFjJB8c&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsBra8SYaM5DsRztufYsxIHFKIx2 1Up6qg%2BSNOrftW4LgTxEtucTRefLGvX5fSujKxUD3R32uGkMSFxHRrDdD0P69yUXN8Ub3LodcLefeWjD%2F8YlqnOlCiIeNeSt ajHU%2FYDg2xj%2B8hZCpTiYCDFB%2BjZ4oIJeNNN9VFV0VRl6DfTIJFsFM5NF0argoiFeGy1OfNnuQ%2Fxk9Kgci5Mwj82U894V Ab5V9GutUSByEaFaHaPBz%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4zVzbPTYQDD
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And I'm picky about liking the (obscure!) 177.5mm crank arms that are on there, with the bonus that they're 110mm BCD. Thanks for the thought, though!
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03-01-23, 06:30 AM
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Btw, I stopped at my local bike shop yesterday during the ride and an old roadie checked out my gugiefied Austro Daimler. He said, "it looks like a rivendell." I thought you should know what sort of trouble we are getting into.
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03-01-23, 07:59 AM
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Well, here's what Rivendells look like these days:
Not my kind of aesthetic.
Not my kind of aesthetic.
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They nailed the Bianchi Celeste though ...
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Gugie sez,
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You know, I'm being half-serious here, but I saw a pair of crankarms while perusing Ebay last night which would almost mirror that slight curvature of your seatpost:
Strip the anodizing, give them a brushed finish, et voila: instant conversation starter!
Just in case you might be interested: https://www.ebay.com/itm/185719843059?hash=item2b3dc3e8f3:gwwAAOSwPLFjJB8c&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsBra8SYaM5DsRztufYsxIHFKIx2 1Up6qg%2BSNOrftW4LgTxEtucTRefLGvX5fSujKxUD3R32uGkMSFxHRrDdD0P69yUXN8Ub3LodcLefeWjD%2F8YlqnOlCiIeNeSt ajHU%2FYDg2xj%2B8hZCpTiYCDFB%2BjZ4oIJeNNN9VFV0VRl6DfTIJFsFM5NF0argoiFeGy1OfNnuQ%2Fxk9Kgci5Mwj82U894V Ab5V9GutUSByEaFaHaPBz%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4zVzbPTYQ
DD
Strip the anodizing, give them a brushed finish, et voila: instant conversation starter!
Just in case you might be interested: https://www.ebay.com/itm/185719843059?hash=item2b3dc3e8f3:g
wwAAOSwPLFjJB8c&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAsBra8SYaM5DsRztufYsxIHFKIx2 1Up6qg%2BSNOrftW4LgTxEtucTRefLGvX5fSujKxUD3R32uGkMSFxHRrDdD0P69yUXN8Ub3LodcLefeWjD%2F8YlqnOlCiIeNeSt ajHU%2FYDg2xj%2B8hZCpTiYCDFB%2BjZ4oIJeNNN9VFV0VRl6DfTIJFsFM5NF0argoiFeGy1OfNnuQ%2Fxk9Kgci5Mwj82U894V Ab5V9GutUSByEaFaHaPBz%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4zVzbPTYQDD
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Since this appears to have become a 'Share Your Gugificazione' thread, I'll make a small contribution.
Mark added a second set of bottle cage bosses on the seat tube, filled in the internal brake cable guide holes on the top tube and added external guides (note they're offset to 11 o'clock). He also filled in the holes for the internally-routed gear cables, adding external gear lever bosses and a pair of Campy guides on top of the shell as well as a diver's helmet stop on the chainstay for good measure:
After the torch-work, he took the frame and fork to be media blasted, resulting a beautiful, even matte finish. I wanted to keep that look, so clear-coated the frame with matte Krylon clear.
In this close-up, you can see the clean brazing around the edges of the Campy guide, and just make out the plugged hole the FD cable used to emerge from in the original, internally routed configuration:
Of course it carries the 'Seal of Approval'; note the exclamation point is absent - the tiny dent wouldn't allow it to lay flat and stay stuck. Oh, well:
Apres-Cino, 2021 - exactly the type of ride I had in mind when pitching my vision to Mark:
The bike currently resides in his garage, patiently awaiting the next Cino. Fingers crossed, that will be July of this year; it'll be nice to get reacquainted with this bike - and get a gander at how the patina is developing!
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Mark added a second set of bottle cage bosses on the seat tube, filled in the internal brake cable guide holes on the top tube and added external guides (note they're offset to 11 o'clock). He also filled in the holes for the internally-routed gear cables, adding external gear lever bosses and a pair of Campy guides on top of the shell as well as a diver's helmet stop on the chainstay for good measure:
After the torch-work, he took the frame and fork to be media blasted, resulting a beautiful, even matte finish. I wanted to keep that look, so clear-coated the frame with matte Krylon clear.
In this close-up, you can see the clean brazing around the edges of the Campy guide, and just make out the plugged hole the FD cable used to emerge from in the original, internally routed configuration:
Of course it carries the 'Seal of Approval'; note the exclamation point is absent - the tiny dent wouldn't allow it to lay flat and stay stuck. Oh, well:
Apres-Cino, 2021 - exactly the type of ride I had in mind when pitching my vision to Mark:
The bike currently resides in his garage, patiently awaiting the next Cino. Fingers crossed, that will be July of this year; it'll be nice to get reacquainted with this bike - and get a gander at how the patina is developing!
DD
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