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08-31-22, 09:41 AM
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08-31-22, 09:47 AM
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I'd love to get mine that high again; hopefully soon I'll be able to run hard enough to do that. It doesn't happen on the trainer.
08-31-22, 09:56 AM
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08-31-22, 10:00 AM
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I think a lot of GPs are not acquainted with endurance sports, or endurance athletes, and for them, if one of their more sedentary patients told them their HR had been > 120 for 4 1/2 hours, it would be some kind of major health crisis, rather than a fairly relaxed Sunday afternoon ride.
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08-31-22, 10:16 AM
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made the call of shame this morning and my wife said suck it up, then hung up on me. Had to really dig deep to make it home. A couple of times I thought about just letting it all end.
Im not sure why, but this mornings ride sucked. It started bad too. Alarm went off at 330 am. I got caffeinated, suited up and went to go and my head light was not on my bike. I had charged all my gear the previous day, everything was present but my head light. I spent one whole hour silently tearing my whole house apart trying to find it. Found it in my unborn sons room. Grabbed it and launched.
heart rate off the gate was high, I was keeping a decent pace but not pushing it. Was def in zone 2 most of the time but my heart rate was in the 160s. Mile 40 I started to feel normal but my massive quads developed a massive cramp. Never have I had cramping like this and it was in both legs. I know I def was dehydrated, but over all it was depressing.
Called the wife at the end of the metric. Todays goal was a century but the big man up stairs must have had other plans.
Im not sure why, but this mornings ride sucked. It started bad too. Alarm went off at 330 am. I got caffeinated, suited up and went to go and my head light was not on my bike. I had charged all my gear the previous day, everything was present but my head light. I spent one whole hour silently tearing my whole house apart trying to find it. Found it in my unborn sons room. Grabbed it and launched.
heart rate off the gate was high, I was keeping a decent pace but not pushing it. Was def in zone 2 most of the time but my heart rate was in the 160s. Mile 40 I started to feel normal but my massive quads developed a massive cramp. Never have I had cramping like this and it was in both legs. I know I def was dehydrated, but over all it was depressing.
Called the wife at the end of the metric. Todays goal was a century but the big man up stairs must have had other plans.
08-31-22, 10:17 AM
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Last time I did a Zwift race, I got close to that. I find it hard to keep going in Ramp Tests, but in a race I'm not watching my power and HR, just trying to figure when I need to make an almighty effort and whether I can sustain it to the line. Ramp tests I run my HR up into the 160s. Races I've gone over 170.
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08-31-22, 10:31 AM
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I think a lot of GPs are not acquainted with endurance sports, or endurance athletes, and for them, if one of their more sedentary patients told them their HR had been > 120 for 4 1/2 hours, it would be some kind of major health crisis, rather than a fairly relaxed Sunday afternoon ride.
08-31-22, 10:33 AM
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08-31-22, 10:54 AM
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08-31-22, 10:55 AM
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Wordle 438 6/6. Blah.
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Last time I did a Zwift race, I got close to that. I find it hard to keep going in Ramp Tests, but in a race I'm not watching my power and HR, just trying to figure when I need to make an almighty effort and whether I can sustain it to the line. Ramp tests I run my HR up into the 160s. Races I've gone over 170.
08-31-22, 11:02 AM
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My current max is 189. When I'm feeling good, I can sustain a hard effort in the mid-170s, and make repeated short efforts to 180. However, I've always had a high HR. In my prime (early 30s), I was seeing a max of 207, and could climb for extended periods at 192.
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08-31-22, 11:13 AM
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08-31-22, 11:38 AM
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08-31-22, 11:39 AM
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I'm old now, but I used to live happily in the 180s and could hit the 200s when I was running competitively and I got my first Polar watch in about 2003. For some reason, however, a high HR did not make me fast.
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08-31-22, 11:53 AM
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Just for fun, I went back in Strava all the way to 2018 and looked at Sunday rides in August/September - this is about peak fitness for the year, when I do my longest rides, after months of ramping up.
I must be doing something right.
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08-31-22, 11:55 AM
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Last week I did a ramp, in 3 min/25W steps from Z1 to about 1.25 x FTP, for lactate testing. It definitely helped to have two guys yelling at me. No way I could have completed it on my own. However, my HR only got to 170 and it routinely gets higher than that when I ride with the local knuckleheads. I can even hit 180 once or twice a year, but it just hurts, never assplodes, and I don't die.
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08-31-22, 11:59 AM
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08-31-22, 12:03 PM
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Better to reign in Heav'n, than to serve in Hell.
Wait. That can't be right.
EDIT: Which reminds me of "Starship Troopers" when the Sarge yells, "Come on, you apes? You want to live forever?" I always imagine someone at the back yelling, "Wait! Is that an option?"
Wait. That can't be right.
EDIT: Which reminds me of "Starship Troopers" when the Sarge yells, "Come on, you apes? You want to live forever?" I always imagine someone at the back yelling, "Wait! Is that an option?"
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08-31-22, 12:09 PM
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It has never crossed my mind to keep track of my heart rate, and you guys have been doing it since time immemorial.
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Once I got an HRM, I discovered that my Perceived Exertion was wildly out of sync with it at time. E.g., there's a couple miles of 1-2% descent - straight, no stops, wide bike lanes - that I'd go zooming down, thinking I was hardly exerting effort, but I was actually doing Tempo.
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08-31-22, 12:36 PM
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Once I got an HRM, I discovered that my Perceived Exertion was wildly out of sync with it at time. E.g., there's a couple miles of 1-2% descent - straight, no stops, wide bike lanes - that I'd go zooming down, thinking I was hardly exerting effort, but I was actually doing Tempo.