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Old 01-31-23, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by msu2001la
Agree. If you ignore the social media aspect, Garmin connect is comparable to the free version of Strava in some respects, but it only works with Garmin devices and doesn't provide a stand-alone mobile app for activity tracking like Strava does.

Garmin Connect would be fine if you only want to sync and track your own data and don't care about sharing with others, and also don't care about any of the premium features that Strava offers, but it's not really a Strava replacement option.
When I used Strava as Stand Alone mobile app for activity tracking it would kill my battery and the phone would die after about 3 hours of riding. Thus it only makes sense if you do longer rides to have a dedicated bike computer with much longer battery life.

In the Garmin Connect mobile app in the menu there is a "Connections" and "Groups" option that allows you to connect with friends just like Strava and have the Social Media aspect.
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Old 01-31-23, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Yup. This. And Garmin Connect doesn't offer anything like Strava Segments..
Actually Garmin Connect does offer that.

https://support.garmin.com/en-US/?fa...AbAqaWs22qHcn5

https://www.alphr.com/create-segment-garmin/
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Old 01-31-23, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by prj71
Yawn.

No one (at least none of my riding friends) uses Garmin Connect like this. I also don't own a Garmin computer and don't even have the Connect app.

As has been noted by several people in this thread, Strava is a preferred choice precisely because it is so popular. And the cost is a trivial expense for many of us...A rounding error in my annual budget.
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Old 01-31-23, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Reynolds 531
Has anyone else noticed that creating Strava Routes has gotten terrible?

On several different devices, while trying to create a route, the "cursor" jumps to a completely to different place. Often, when the route is finished, there are zig zags that were never intended to be there, and cut through time and space on nonexistent anything.

This is the main thing I use Strava for, and I will have to let my subscription lapse if I have to start using another platform.
Try Ride with GPS to create routes. One of the best ones out there to use.

https://ridewithgps.com/?lang=en
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Old 01-31-23, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Yawn.

No one (at least none of my riding friends) uses Garmin Connect like this. I also don't own a Garmin computer and don't even have the Connect app.

As has been noted by several people in this thread, Strava is a preferred choice precisely because it is so popular. And the cost is a trivial expense for many of us...A rounding error in my annual budget.
Yeah. If you don't have Garmin Connect or Garmin Bike computer then this won't work for you. Pretty much everyone I ride with has a Garmin Edge though. The seem ubiquitous in the cycling community.

For the record...I exclusively use Strava myself for all of those features. I'm just not a premium user.
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Originally Posted by prj71
I get what you are saying...kinda like a facebook for athletes....but not sure why I need "kudos" after every ride. I use it to keep track of annual mileage and the mileage on each bike I own. Every once in a while, if I'm feeling energetic and in the mood, I will use it to chase a segment for a KOM.

Looking at this...they make money plenty of other ways. No need for me to pay a subscription for features I'll never use.


https://medium.com/bestcompany/how-s...e-92ae7bfdc633

https://productmint.com/strava-busin...va-make-money/

https://entrepreneur-360.com/how-doe...ke-money-35612
No one is telling you that you "need" anything to do with Strava. I'm certainly not trying to convince you to change how you're using it, or your opinion of it. If Strava's features aren't useful to you, don't use it. If you disagree with how Stava makes money, don't use it. Do, or do not. I don't care. I've shared some of the reasons why I find Strava valuable to me. Your reasons and my reasons don't have to be the same.

Okay...so, they've figured out a way to generate multiple revenue streams. So what? Sounds like effective business. It doesn't change my feelings that $80/year for the services they provide is worth it to me. I've used some of the "challenge" promotions, too.
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Old 01-31-23, 10:37 AM
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Agreed. The premium features aren't for everyone!
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Originally Posted by prj71
When I used Strava as Stand Alone mobile app for activity tracking it would kill my battery and the phone would die after about 3 hours of riding. Thus it only makes sense if you do longer rides to have a dedicated bike computer with much longer battery life.

In the Garmin Connect mobile app in the menu there is a "Connections" and "Groups" option that allows you to connect with friends just like Strava and have the Social Media aspect.
I use a Garmin Edge, but I much prefer Strava for connecting with other riders. It's just better in that respect. I am connected to one of my riding friends via Garmin Connect, but AFAIK it doesn't share their rides with me. The only time I've used it was for the live tracking function, so I could see how far away my friend was during an event, which worked okay.
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Made my day yesterday getting PR on a segment I wasn’t really trying to beat by 30 seconds as well as a 6th overall fastest on a new climb i was just exploring. Now i have to go back and try for the KOM. (It’s very little known and luckily no retired racers know about it). Am trying to also bag as many fastest times for my age group just for fun. Little carrots like this keep me intrigued and using the app.
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Dang, I'm torn now after reading this thread. I was going to get a Strave membership and upgrade one of my bikes to electronic shifting. Now it appears I'll have to wait on the Strava membership so I can afford the group upgrade. Sometimes you have to make tough choices.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds 531
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Every so often when I get a PR, I check my age group, and discover just how many of the old guys around here are faster than me. Then I check my weight group, and discover just how many of the fat guys around here are faster than me. Then I go back to measuring my performance against my performance, because there are too many old, fat, fast guys around here.
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Originally Posted by prj71
I get what you are saying...kinda like a facebook for athletes....but not sure why I need "kudos" after every ride. I use it to keep track of annual mileage and the mileage on each bike I own. Every once in a while, if I'm feeling energetic and in the mood, I will use it to chase a segment for a KOM.

Looking at this...they make money plenty of other ways. No need for me to pay a subscription for features I'll never use.


https://medium.com/bestcompany/how-s...e-92ae7bfdc633

https://productmint.com/strava-busin...va-make-money/

https://entrepreneur-360.com/how-doe...ke-money-35612
Excellent articles. Thanks for sharing
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Too funny and too close to home. But at 165 lbs, not too fat yet!! Now when do I get to kiss the girl?
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Every so often when I get a PR, I check my age group, and discover just how many of the old guys around here are faster than me. Then I check my weight group, and discover just how many of the fat guys around here are faster than me. Then I go back to measuring my performance against my performance, because there are too many old, fat, fast guys around here.
I feel ya, man. Oh, so much.
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Originally Posted by rsbob
Too funny and too close to home. But at 165 lbs, not too fat yet!! Now when do I get to kiss the girl?
Just before you get arrested for sexual harassment.
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Originally Posted by prj71
When I used Strava as Stand Alone mobile app for activity tracking it would kill my battery and the phone would die after about 3 hours of riding. Thus it only makes sense if you do longer rides to have a dedicated bike computer with much longer battery life.
Yes, any map/nav app will increase battery drain on a phone. This isn't specific to Strava.

I have a Wahoo Elemnt Bolt that I use for cycling, but there are lots of times where I still want to track more casual cycling mileage without it. I use our city's bike-share for commuting and running errands around town, for example. I like to track those rides, and carrying my Bolt around to do that seems silly when there's a Strava mobile app that can do it.

I also use the Strava app to track non-cycling stuff like running, kayaking, cross country and downhill skiing, etc. I went ice skating with my kid a few days ago and tracked our speed and distance with the Strava app (5.1 miles in an hour). Strava works on an Apple watch and makes this very simple.
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Originally Posted by msu2001la
I also use the Strava app to track non-cycling stuff like running, kayaking, cross country and downhill skiing, etc. I went ice skating with my kid a few days ago and tracked our speed and distance with the Strava app (5.1 miles in an hour). Strava works on an Apple watch and makes this very simple.
Kewl. I have a Garmin Instinct watch for the non-cycling stuff, but for the same reason I have the Garmin Edge for the bike. I tried to use the Strava app for snow shoe hikes or hikes I did in the mountains and it killed my battery. Short jaunts it seems to work good.
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DC Rainmaker making Strava look really bad, just by shining a light on them. What a PR disaster.

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/01/...g-country.html
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Originally Posted by Reynolds 531
DC Rainmaker making Strava look really bad, just by shining a light on them. What a PR disaster.

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/01/...g-country.html
Meh. ďDisasterĒ seems like an over-statement.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds 531
DC Rainmaker making Strava look really bad, just by shining a light on them. What a PR disaster.

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/01/...g-country.html
Ooofta. What a bunch of drama.

Makes me glad I don't subscribe.
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Meh. “Disaster” seems like an over-statement.
I chose an adjective between "debacle" and "trainwreck".

Note how long this thread has been going on, in a vintage-oriented bicycle forum. Imagine what is happening on Triathlon Chat groups and Roadie Forums.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds 531
DC Rainmaker making Strava look really bad, just by shining a light on them. What a PR disaster.

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2023/01/...g-country.html
Until DC Rainmaker learns to write more succinctly, I can't bother reading his stuff.

Originally Posted by Eric F
Meh. ďDisasterĒ seems like an over-statement.
This. Strava will survive.
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Originally Posted by prj71
Ooofta. What a bunch of drama.

Makes me glad I don't subscribe.
Yet in his summary he says that he uses Strava daily and thinks itís good value for money.

The whole debate about regional prices etc is a bit tedious for something that costs 15p per day. Itís not worth the lost time in thinking about it.
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That DC Rainmaker fella has far too much time on his hands!

I am right in thinking all thatís happened here is a company has put its prices up, for the first time in years, and didnít do the best job of letting the subscribers know?

The hand wringing seems a bit extreme.

And I donít know how exactly Strava earns its revenue (ie. what component is made up of paid subscribers), but I think the product as a whole is well worth the price (I pay, donít use a lot of the premium services) and hereís hoping the freeloaders appreciate that.
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