Rolla

Tater Tots taste like a potato that somebody else already chewed.

Ironfish653

Aww, you boomers are so cute when you’re old !

“That word; I do not think it means what I think you think it means,”. - I. Montoya

jaxgtr

We need to include the current stupid high inflation in this pricing...so probably closer to 10K

skidder

Can I get onion rings instead of Fries? I know that's a 'change' for all of you, but I like onion rings.

Here's the change:

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tomato coupe

Sorry, that's gonna be a hard no.

dedhed

What people need to resist is replying to these threads

Koyote

Hey, at least I learned something from this thread.

Polaris OBark

I thot so.

Koyote

Maybe thots ride 'bents?

Polaris OBark

fify

Gresp15C

In the business world, "resistance to change" is used almost exclusively when someone is ambivalent to a change that doesn't actually benefit them. It's an ad hominem argument -- attacking the person rather than the actual matter at hand. A lot of changes to technology are beneficial to some but not to others, have practical drawbacks, or just involve unnecessary "churn" for minimal gain. Given that a good bike is likely to last 40 years, it's not shocking that people aren't all rushing out to buy the latest thing when the existing technology is fully amortized and still works. Sometimes it's also worth waiting a few years to see how a new idea shakes out in the real world.

Polaris OBark

The underlying assumption of all of his evangelical posts is that recumbents aren't simply some other option, like road vs. gravel vs. down-country vs. hybrid. Rather, the assumption is that recumbents are simply superior in every aspect, and anyone who hasn't cotton on is inherently close-minded, ipso facto.

big john

big john

Then what happens?

Gresp15C

It might need some maintenance.

Reflector Guy

After 40 years, it turns into a potato.

Russ Roth

This, if you're not spending at least 3k on the wheels how serious can you really be? Toss in the current overpriced cost on a Trek or Specialized massed produced carbon frame and you've blown the doors of 5k. 5,000 is beginner pricing now for the noobs of the sport.


Yeah but they were only popular among non-serious people who didn't want to ride real bikes, the unwashed masses who didn't know any better, not real cyclists. There's a difference there you know?

big john

A little.

PeteHski

Rydabent doesn't count since he was talking about some fictional hardcore group that he certainly doesn't identify with himself.

unterhausen

I don't know, if it's carbon it's going to kersplode after 40 years. Of course, nobody but a noob would be seen on a 40 year old carbon bike, so it will be landfill before then.

Kontact 

My shop experience over 30 years is that today's bikes are the most finicky, maintenance intensive, hard for consumers to service and have the worst warranty failure rate of any I've ever seen.

I'm resistant to the current changes because all my 'outdated' bikes could be stored for a decade and still be race worthy after the tires are aired.


Overall, I don't know why anyone would expect a hobbyist to fall in love with the specifics of a sport and then abandon what they love because someone else has decided a new standard applies. Cycling isn't racing. Cycling isn't commuting. It is a pastime that allows for both, or neither.

prj71

I have $5k bikes but my kits are usually less than $50. Because I am frugal buying sub-par kits it allows me to afford $5k bikes.

prj71

None of this is true.

Kontact 

Yes, it is.

In the '90s we had to warranty almost nothing. Now frames, carbon wheels, Di2 components and hydraulic components fail with great regularity and relatively short intervals.

PeteHski

As a consumer I can't say I've noticed this at all over the last 40+ years of cycling. From a design point of view bikes are certainly more complex and sophisticated, but still relatively simple machines compared to say cars or motorbikes. I'll have to take your word on warranty failures. I haven't personally had to make any claims, but then I've only bought a handful of new bikes in the last decade.

I find modern road bikes are virtually maintenance-free apart from the usual drivetrain cleaning/lube.