BQ: Disc Brakes "Not Mature Tech"
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BQ: Disc Brakes "Not Mature Tech"
Bicycle Quarterly #53 :
"Are Disc Brakes a Mature Technology?" Article
Summary after these topics are discussed:
Test Bikes
Larger Discs Needed?
Wheel Ejection
Stiff Fork Blades
Carbon-Ceramic Rotors?
"For performance oriented riders who tend to use their brakes hard, rim brakes apparently remain the best choice."
-Bicycle Quarterly Autumn 2015 #53 Vol. 14 #1 pgs 69-70
"Are Disc Brakes a Mature Technology?" Article
Summary after these topics are discussed:
Test Bikes
Larger Discs Needed?
Wheel Ejection
Stiff Fork Blades
Carbon-Ceramic Rotors?
"For performance oriented riders who tend to use their brakes hard, rim brakes apparently remain the best choice."
-Bicycle Quarterly Autumn 2015 #53 Vol. 14 #1 pgs 69-70
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Some stuff has not needed much... like the S-A 3 speed .
Roadies are a open market for Gadgets , as seen on the Pro's Bikes who are There to market stuff as much as race.
Roadies are a open market for Gadgets , as seen on the Pro's Bikes who are There to market stuff as much as race.
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Disc brakes rule. Some love them so much they get them burned onto their skin to look cool.
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And some people believe anything that's new or different is always better just because it's new or different. They usually vote democrat.
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the calipers are also stiffer, yet more compliant
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And then there are other people who make broad, sweeping, generalizations at a specific target and are simply wrong. They are usually too lazy to vote.
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Someone better warn the SAE
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Bicycle Quarterly #53 :
"Are Disc Brakes a Mature Technology?" Article
Summary after these topics are discussed:
Test Bikes
Larger Discs Needed?
Wheel Ejection
Stiff Fork Blades
Carbon-Ceramic Rotors?
"For performance oriented riders who tend to use their brakes hard, rim brakes apparently remain the best choice."
-Bicycle Quarterly Autumn 2015 #53 Vol. 14 #1 pgs 69-70
"Are Disc Brakes a Mature Technology?" Article
Summary after these topics are discussed:
Test Bikes
Larger Discs Needed?
Wheel Ejection
Stiff Fork Blades
Carbon-Ceramic Rotors?
"For performance oriented riders who tend to use their brakes hard, rim brakes apparently remain the best choice."
-Bicycle Quarterly Autumn 2015 #53 Vol. 14 #1 pgs 69-70
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BQ doesn't seem to have a bias "against disc brakes", they seem to be reporting from test ride observations riding a variety of machines and disc brake types in their home terrain and usage which is not road racing.
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I'm not getting into this argument/debate/whatever, but a technology does not have to be mature to be superior. For example, when quantum computing arrives it won't be "mature" for decades. However, it will still be able to squash anything else that has existed up to that point, especially if it's still based on the Von Neumann architecture.
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Bicycle hardware must have superior performance in the interim or it's just another early adopter fad that may/may-not prove plausible.
Once again the summary from BQ:
"For performance oriented riders who tend to use their brakes hard, rim brakes apparently remain the best choice."
-Bicycle Quarterly Autumn 2015 #53 Vol. 14 #1 pgs 69-70
-Bandera
Once again the summary from BQ:
"For performance oriented riders who tend to use their brakes hard, rim brakes apparently remain the best choice."
-Bicycle Quarterly Autumn 2015 #53 Vol. 14 #1 pgs 69-70
-Bandera
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Have them on my MTB and wouldn't ride without them. On my road bike, don't need them and the rim brakes are just fine.
No debate for me.
You're welcome to use whatever you like.
No debate for me.
You're welcome to use whatever you like.
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Bicycle hardware must have superior performance in the interim or it's just another early adopter fad that may/may-not prove plausible.
Once again the summary from BQ:
"For performance oriented riders who tend to use their brakes hard, rim brakes apparently remain the best choice."
-Bicycle Quarterly Autumn 2015 #53 Vol. 14 #1 pgs 69-70
-Bandera
Once again the summary from BQ:
"For performance oriented riders who tend to use their brakes hard, rim brakes apparently remain the best choice."
-Bicycle Quarterly Autumn 2015 #53 Vol. 14 #1 pgs 69-70
-Bandera
I may be somewhat of an anomaly on this forum, but I actually have no interest in the disc brake vs. rim brake discussion. I find it completely uninteresting. It's less exciting than another thread on chain lubes.
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Disc brakes on my mtn bikes and rim on my road bike because I don't care about my road bikes brakes, they work, and do really care about the brakes on my mtn bikes. If I were in the market for a newer ride bike and saw a good deal on a road bike with disc brakes I wouldn't hesitate to buy it.
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Is 160mm large? I don't see the need to go bigger on road. Off road I use 180mm.
This doesn't happen in reality. Seriously who thinks this stuff?
This can be a bonus in some cases. Not in generic road riding but try being a bigger dude and add a bit of luggage and you'll see the advantage.
Why?
But this somehow only applies to road? I knew MTB'ers or other non road riders weren't actually using their brakes hard! It must have something to do with loose surfaces, the need for extremely precise braking to keep front traction and enough power not have cramping hands after every small hill... I guess if I wanted to brake hard on my MTB i need to go back to Vee brakes...
Wheel Ejection
Stiff Fork Blades
Carbon-Ceramic Rotors?
But this somehow only applies to road? I knew MTB'ers or other non road riders weren't actually using their brakes hard! It must have something to do with loose surfaces, the need for extremely precise braking to keep front traction and enough power not have cramping hands after every small hill... I guess if I wanted to brake hard on my MTB i need to go back to Vee brakes...
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My BQ hasn't arrived yet, but knowing Jan's typical point of view, I understand it. I have road oriented bikes both with Compass center pulls and hydraulic MTB brakes. I hope that road disks will be quieter and smoother than MTB disks, but the one thing that won't change is the need for stiff fork blades.
When seeking perfection, compromise is part of the picture. For a Jan type bike, I agree with his preference.
When seeking perfection, compromise is part of the picture. For a Jan type bike, I agree with his preference.