Show Your Vintage MTB Drop Bar Conversions
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I think I have the skipping issue sorted. It's going to take some more riding, but I'm pretty sure right now that the issue was with the front derailleur wasn't in quite the right position. I fiddled with it a bit this morning on my way in to work, and the trip there was skipless, as was my trip home tonight.
I'm not 100% sure, though, because when it was skipping it was on the middle chainring (new), and today I had it on the largest chainring. It's barely conceivable there's something wrong with the middle chainring, but I'm pretty sure I just need to get used to friction shifting again.
I'm not 100% sure, though, because when it was skipping it was on the middle chainring (new), and today I had it on the largest chainring. It's barely conceivable there's something wrong with the middle chainring, but I'm pretty sure I just need to get used to friction shifting again.
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Lots of good stuff in here lately, as always! Here's a recent shot of mine. I've posted this bike before, but not this picture.
This won't fix your housing shortage problem, but have you tried a fork-mounted cable hanger? Performance Bike stores have them in stock, or at least the one near me does. I bought one on a whim after happening upon it in the store just before I did my drop bar conversion. The neat thing about it is it has a cable adjuster with a lot of travel built in, so as my new cable stretched, I could easily tighten it up again.
Forté Fork Mount Cable Hanger
Originally Posted by arex
Still need to replace the front brake housing and tape the left bar. There's an elbow adapter at the cable hanger that just isn't working out, and the housing isn't long enough to reach the hanger by itself.
This won't fix your housing shortage problem, but have you tried a fork-mounted cable hanger? Performance Bike stores have them in stock, or at least the one near me does. I bought one on a whim after happening upon it in the store just before I did my drop bar conversion. The neat thing about it is it has a cable adjuster with a lot of travel built in, so as my new cable stretched, I could easily tighten it up again.
Forté Fork Mount Cable Hanger
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I think I have the skipping issue sorted. It's going to take some more riding, but I'm pretty sure right now that the issue was with the front derailleur wasn't in quite the right position. I fiddled with it a bit this morning on my way in to work, and the trip there was skipless, as was my trip home tonight.
I'm not 100% sure, though, because when it was skipping it was on the middle chainring (new), and today I had it on the largest chainring. It's barely conceivable there's something wrong with the middle chainring, but I'm pretty sure I just need to get used to friction shifting again.
I'm not 100% sure, though, because when it was skipping it was on the middle chainring (new), and today I had it on the largest chainring. It's barely conceivable there's something wrong with the middle chainring, but I'm pretty sure I just need to get used to friction shifting again.
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Sometimes a new chain on a used cassette will skip a bit at first and then settle down. It's unlikely that the front derailleur could cause skipping. If you are using friction shifting it is possible that the rear derailleur wasn't quite trimmed correctly but it sounds like you have matching 7 speed indexed shifters to a 7 speed cassette? Or am I wrong. Where did you find the 7 speed bar-ends BTW? Another possibility is a worn out rear derailleur. if the pivots and bushing have become sloppy you can get a derailleur the sits on an angle and twists so that when you apply force the chain moves out of alignment with the cogs and causes it to skip. Pedaling lightly usually keeps it at bay.
Come to think of it, the barends weren't Ultegra 3x7's, they were 3x8's, new. I also have a pair of used Suntour 3x7 barcons that I almost used, except they're kind of chewed up and ugly. I might use those on another bike.
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This won't fix your housing shortage problem, but have you tried a fork-mounted cable hanger? Performance Bike stores have them in stock, or at least the one near me does. I bought one on a whim after happening upon it in the store just before I did my drop bar conversion. The neat thing about it is it has a cable adjuster with a lot of travel built in, so as my new cable stretched, I could easily tighten it up again.
Forté Fork Mount Cable Hanger
Forté Fork Mount Cable Hanger
#4731
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I'm sure you'll do your own research, @arex, but if it helps any, here's a zoomed-in picture of mine that I took on a test ride right after doing my conversion. That cable is so new that you can see the brake cable coming down from the handlebar is still curved, but perhaps it will be of some help. I added a red line to show the lowest point of exposed cable.
Mine:
Yours:
I'm not trying to get you to change your setup, believe me, but talking about bikes is way more fun than working.
Mine:
Yours:
I'm not trying to get you to change your setup, believe me, but talking about bikes is way more fun than working.
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P.S. You should really consider a Shimano link wire if you're not running fenders or a reflector bracket. My next build is gonna be a v-brake setup which eliminates the straddle wire/cable hanger issues, if anybody has any MTB conversions with drop-v levers I'd love to see some pics of those.
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Quick question on bar end shifters. How would Shimano Ultegra BS64 work as bar end shifters for 3x7 drivetrain? Ultegra BS64 is a 3x8 shifter, but I believe it should work on 7 spd. Any pros and cons on Ultegra BS64?
I have been monitoring Suntour barcons, but it's a little more pricier than I want to spend. Ideally I might go the route of replicating the current setup on my Salsa Vaya by using barcon for FD, and brifter for Rear.
I have been monitoring Suntour barcons, but it's a little more pricier than I want to spend. Ideally I might go the route of replicating the current setup on my Salsa Vaya by using barcon for FD, and brifter for Rear.
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[QUOTE=Squeeze;18544318]I'm sure you'll do your own research, @arex, but if it helps any, here's a zoomed-in picture of mine that I took on a test ride right after doing my conversion. That cable is so new that you can see the brake cable coming down from the handlebar is still curved, but perhaps it will be of some help. I added a red line to show the lowest point of exposed cable.
Mine:
The cable looks weird because it hasn't been pushed over into the little notch yet. Look closely and you will see a little tooth and a second place for it to sit.
Mine:
The cable looks weird because it hasn't been pushed over into the little notch yet. Look closely and you will see a little tooth and a second place for it to sit.
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Just saw this in a bike mag. Interesting new interpretation on the drop bar conversion.
$2000 MSRP, so I think I will just stick with my drop bar conversion.
Trek 920:
$2000 MSRP, so I think I will just stick with my drop bar conversion.
Trek 920:
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P.S. You should really consider a Shimano link wire if you're not running fenders or a reflector bracket. My next build is gonna be a v-brake setup which eliminates the straddle wire/cable hanger issues, if anybody has any MTB conversions with drop-v levers I'd love to see some pics of those.
I considered V-brakes at one point, but decided to just try and keep it simple with what I knew how to work with.
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did 160 miles on this sunday and it officially rocks. i kinda feel bad making this as my "beater" now
new bars, new old 3x9 XTR/XT Deore combo, new old cambium saddle
new bars, new old 3x9 XTR/XT Deore combo, new old cambium saddle
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Here's an old nishiki that I converted into a gravel/cross bike. Eight speed with a compact double front. I put a fork from ebay on it I got cheap so I could run 700C wheels and I relocated the rear brake bosses so I could use a 700C wheel in back. I welded the brake parts as well as new cable guides on with a little 110V stick welder, worked great. I've done a lot of single track as well as cross racing with the bike. Love the thing, I'll have to add up the total cost, but it's been awhile. Got the bike initially for $20 off craigslist. Built it pretty much from stuff laying around the basement, other than the BB, and the brakes parts.
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The brakes are ORIGIN8 and the levers TEKTRO for linear pull. The tech at O8 said that's what they use, since they don't brand a linear pull lever. My LBS had both, so got them there.
bike photo
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PS - I haven't installed it yet, but I got a clamp on cable stop. Right now the housing is taped and zip tied to the top tube. Don't know if you can see that in the pics.
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i like drums for townies, commuters and rain bikes because they always perform on the same level, and ask essentially nothing from you maintenance wise
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the rear is an x-rdc which is also a drum brake. with compressionless housing and a good set of levers, theyre actually quite good. i can skid out the rear but i havent played around with endo wheelies yet
i like drums for townies, commuters and rain bikes because they always perform on the same level, and ask essentially nothing from you maintenance wise
i like drums for townies, commuters and rain bikes because they always perform on the same level, and ask essentially nothing from you maintenance wise
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Here's a couple of pics. Do you need a close up? I swapped from cantis to linear pull last fall. Didn't get a close up yet. I switched over the brake levers also.
The brakes are ORIGIN8 and the levers TEKTRO for linear pull. The tech at O8 said that's what they use, since they don't brand a linear pull lever. My LBS had both, so got them there.
bike photo1
another bike photo
one more photo
last photo in this post
PS - I haven't installed it yet, but I got a clamp on cable stop. Right now the housing is taped and zip tied to the top tube. Don't know if you can see that in the pics.
The brakes are ORIGIN8 and the levers TEKTRO for linear pull. The tech at O8 said that's what they use, since they don't brand a linear pull lever. My LBS had both, so got them there.
bike photo1
another bike photo
one more photo
last photo in this post
PS - I haven't installed it yet, but I got a clamp on cable stop. Right now the housing is taped and zip tied to the top tube. Don't know if you can see that in the pics.
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I just sold off my townie with that setup, I found the smaller 70mm drum brake to be fully inadequate on my first attempt, I rebuilt the front wheel with the larger 90mm brake+dyno hub and it was okay. I was hoping to try it out on a MTB build but I already had too much in the wheels (650b Weinmanns.) To anyone who is thinking of doing this, don't bother with the 70mm front hub unless you're building a bike for your sub-100lb kids to ride exclusively.
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