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05-20-17, 07:48 AM
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Save your brain power, guys, The BF Breezer Haterz Club has bigger fish to fry than me! You gotta mail your complaints to the Smithsonian National Museum of American History, who have Breezer #1 in their permanent collection (though it might sill be out on loan to the Mountain Bike Hall of Fame, of which Breeze is a charter member; better write them, too!) and explain to them they've got it all wrong, that Joe Breeze is nothing special. Quickly now boys, off you go!
I found a listing of all the parts on the #1 MB which was pretty cool. List it as 38 lbs, wow! I thought my Raleigh was a tank, LOL! Crazy to see how different mountain bikes have become from his initial one.
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LOL!
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05-21-17, 06:00 PM
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05-22-17, 07:24 AM
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The pic reminds me that the Breezer Venturi was also probably the first sloping top tube production road bike.
In fact, it could be argued it was the first compact geometry road bike, although the term, as it has become know since Giant popularized the style, has come to signify a less compact geometry than Breeze designed, notably in terms of taller head tubes and generally longer wheelbases.
In fact, it could be argued it was the first compact geometry road bike, although the term, as it has become know since Giant popularized the style, has come to signify a less compact geometry than Breeze designed, notably in terms of taller head tubes and generally longer wheelbases.
05-22-17, 07:36 AM
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The pic reminds me that the Breezer Venturi was also probably the first sloping top tube production road bike.
In fact, it could be argued it was the first compact geometry road bike, although the term, as it has become know since Giant popularized the style, has come to signify a less compact geometry than Breeze designed, notably in terms of taller head tubes and generally longer wheelbases.
In fact, it could be argued it was the first compact geometry road bike, although the term, as it has become know since Giant popularized the style, has come to signify a less compact geometry than Breeze designed, notably in terms of taller head tubes and generally longer wheelbases.
05-22-17, 07:39 AM
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That pic reminds me why I didn't buy one.
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05-22-17, 07:59 AM
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It doesn't make sense at all. Sloping top tube bikes go back way further than that. Perhaps you meant steel bike with sloping top tube.
05-22-17, 08:10 AM
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It doesn't? Which production road bike had it before Venturi? I can't recall another, but in any case, it was definitely a very rare design element if it existed.
05-22-17, 08:30 AM
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Giant's road bike with sloping top tube appeared in 1995. There may have been some smaller production shops before that, and there were surely many after that. You are almost 20 years off the mark. Giant alone made it a big thing and then other folks piled on. When I started building up frames in 2009 after a hiatus of several years, just about everything I saw available had sloping top tube. Trek, Specialized, everybody. I know we often have differences of opinion, but this is just scary.
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05-22-17, 08:34 AM
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Oh, I almost forgot. I owned a 2008 Giant with the sloping top tube, but I also still have a 2007 Merlin Works CR titanium frame with sloping top tube. Even though these both predated the Venturi, I would never suggest they were even early in the trend. And here is my Everti from around 2010. Small production from Canada.
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And here is the Merlin:
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And here is the Merlin:
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I think the Giant TCR was '97, but even if it was '95, Venturi predates it.
05-22-17, 08:47 AM
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There are examples of Merlins pre '87, Ibis, and others. I have no idea who was first. I just was trying to clarify that you didn't mean the version introduced in 2012.
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I cannot find any pictures of the Breezer Venturi with a sloping top tube. From what I read, breeze shortened the head tune and shrank teh front o f the frame to increase sitffness and lower weight---exactly the opposite of what sloping-top-tube bikes do.
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That's what I was asking you. Did you mean THIS Venturi or a previous model with the same name? That would be fair, but would need to be clarified. Wasn't THIS version a reintroduction of the name after many years and with all the advancements you like to point out to us?
There are examples of Merlins pre '87, Ibis, and others. I have no idea who was first. I just was trying to clarify that you didn't mean the version introduced in 2012.
There are examples of Merlins pre '87, Ibis, and others. I have no idea who was first. I just was trying to clarify that you didn't mean the version introduced in 2012.
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So the original Venturi was introduced in 1993. I guess that is what you were referring to. I naturally thought you meant the more modern version we have been discussing. But I have learned something researching this. The tubing in the original version was Ritchey Logic. Now that is interesting.
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I don't understand how what you read translates to "exactly the opposite of what sloping top tube bikes do," but Breeze does eschew long head tubes, preferring (or at least did prefer, according to old marketing materials) riser stems to "resist sprinting torque."
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So the original Venturi was introduced in 1993. I guess that is what you were referring to. I naturally thought you meant the more modern version we have been discussing. But I have learned something researching this. The tubing in the original version was Ritchey Logic. Now that is interesting.
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WOW, I didn't think this thread would get so many responses! Well, I received my Venturi on Friday, got it together on Sunday and went for a short spin on it today. BUTTER... It rides sooo smooth; I can't wait to set it up tubeless for an even smoother ride. I'm vertically challenged (5'6") so I went with an extra small frame and I'm glad I did, its a perfect fit. The only cons I have about the bike is the saddle (which I've already swapped out for an Ergon carbon) and the bars are a little on the narrow side, no biggie though. But for $1050.00 I cant complain. I must say that people who own a Venturi are telling the truth, the bike is nothing like I've ever ridden before. This bike is truly amazing. Fast, fun and comfy. That's all I need. Thanks guys for all your input! 
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WOW, I didn't think this thread would get so many responses! Well, I received my Venturi on Friday, got it together on Sunday and went for a short spin on it today. BUTTER... It rides sooo smooth; I can't wait to set it up tubeless for an even smoother ride. I'm vertically challenged (5'6") so I went with an extra small frame and I'm glad I did, its a perfect fit. The only cons I have about the bike is the saddle (which I've already swapped out for an Ergon carbon) and the bars are a little on the narrow side, no biggie though. But for $1050.00 I cant complain. I must say that the owners of this bike are telling the truth, the bike is nothing like I've ever ridden before. This bike is truly amazing. Fast, fun and comfy. That's all I need. Thanks guys for all your input!
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Oh, cool! The MY'12s have the more retro, 35th anniversary paintjob with the deeper cobalt blue, seatpost panel, and featherhead fork. I think it's the only one to have gold paint highlights, too. It's the one I have, and I love the rich, lustrous appearance; I keep it shined up and 'on fleek' all the time!
