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Old 06-06-20, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by no67el View Post
I also moved the 48-tooth big ring from the 105 crank over to the new crank, so my 9 year old daughter now has a nice 48-42-30, makes the 13-28 in the back entirely sufficient even for steep Vermont hills (Vermont road builders apparently never heard of switchbacks....) N
So true! My daughter went to Middlebury and a few years ago we did a ‘Ride the Gaps’ tour. Brutal climbing!
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Originally Posted by no67el View Post
?..my daughter's 1987 Ironman (with the 24" front wheel)....
...The stock 105 friction front derailleur and downtube lever also seems to shift this setup fine. So often you just don't know what will work until you try.

I also moved the 48-tooth big ring from the 105 crank over to the new crank, so my 9 year old daughter now has a nice 48-42-30, makes the 13-28 in the back entirely sufficient even for steep Vermont hills (Vermont road builders apparently never heard of switchbacks....)

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A 9 year old, friction shifting, a triple, on an IM, is awesome.
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Downtube shifters for a kid

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A 9 year old, friction shifting, a triple, on an IM, is awesome.
I offered to put some Microshift brifters on for her, and she said "no I want to learn to do it the right way!"

In fairness it's only the front derailleur that is friction. By 87 the 105 rear derailleur/shifter combo was index and works pretty well still.

It's really fun riding with her. She was born in Vermont so these hills just seem normal to her-- no whining, (unlike my flatlander friends when they come to visit....!)
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Serious hills..

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So true! My daughter went to Middlebury and a few years ago we did a ‘Ride the Gaps’ tour. Brutal climbing!
The closest "gap" to my house is Lincoln Gap. The last mile is a 24 percent gradient, and the climb averages 15 percent. I can tell that my fitness is coming around when I can actually make it to the top without getting off--- but I definitely weave a bunch of "s" shapes trying to keep from falling over!

A 34x34 is just barely enough on my gravel bike. My old steel road bikes mostly have 38 or 39 in the front and 28 in the back--- I ride those in the valleys....

You always finish a ride feeling that you've earned your beer!

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Thank you for the great information and ideas about the triple! After searching all morning, I have narrowed it down to choosing between a couple of Shimano FC-6206s or Shimano FC-1057s since everything else on the bike is Shimano. Unfortunately, more questions arise. Most of the ones I've seen have no dust caps. Is that a big deal if I can't find a crank with dust caps?

The bottom bracket sizing still confuses me, especially after reading no67el's post. That's great about your daughter, by the way! I thought BBs had to be an exact size to work, but maybe they don't? I have looked at Velobase on the FC-6206 which states a 68mm X 121.5mm BB, but another site says 68 X 122.5. Does Shimano make new BBs to fit the 6206 or 1057? Or, do I need to search for a used one? I'd hate to finally buy something and find out I can't get the proper BB.
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Thank you for the great information and ideas about the triple! After searching all morning, I have narrowed it down to choosing between a couple of Shimano FC-6206s or Shimano FC-1057s since everything else on the bike is Shimano. Unfortunately, more questions arise. Most of the ones I've seen have no dust caps. Is that a big deal if I can't find a crank with dust caps?

The bottom bracket sizing still confuses me, especially after reading no67el's post. That's great about your daughter, by the way! I thought BBs had to be an exact size to work, but maybe they don't? I have looked at Velobase on the FC-6206 which states a 68mm X 121.5mm BB, but another site says 68 X 122.5. Does Shimano make new BBs to fit the 6206 or 1057? Or, do I need to search for a used one? I'd hate to finally buy something and find out I can't get the proper BB.
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I use these instead of regular crank bolts and dust caps. Most multi tools come with an Allen size that fits it. Handy if you have to make roadside repairs. I also like the way they look. In case you are wondering, that is a Shimano FC-6206 crank.


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Old 06-06-20, 05:56 PM
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Thank you, seypat, for the photos and showing me the capless crank arm bolts. Those look nice! I am hoping to get this done in the next few weeks and am looking forward to posting photos. My legs are also looking forward to getting this done!
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Sorry, I wasn't meaning to muddy the waters--- I was just suggesting that sometimes it's not about the published specs, it's about just seeing what fits.

If you want to be sure that your triple will fit, just get the longer bottom bracket-- 122.5 will get it done in all likelihood, and if the spindle is a bit extra long, it might make your chainline less than ideal, but at least it will spin and the small chainring won't hit the frame. In the case of my daughter's bike, I was willing to buy two relatively cheap cartridge bottom brackets so I could try the smaller 118m, and if that still didn't give the chainring clearance, I could install the 122. I wanted the narrowest q-factor I could get, as she is in fact only 9 and pretty small/narrow. I am out of pocket for the return shipping for the bottom bracket unit I didn't use, but I may also just keep it as a spare (or for some future bike....). So I put on the 118 and tried to mount the crank (carefully)--- and it clears fine. YMMV, right?

Having the right gearing for the hills is a good thing--- your knees will thank you!

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I remember Lincoln Gap.

But...not fondly.
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The dude gets it. Not only about the IM, but about C & V in general.
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Old 06-08-20, 08:38 PM
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Old 06-10-20, 09:12 PM
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Anyone else notice that the Ironman Information thread is no longer a stickie? Or I just can't see it.
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Old 06-10-20, 10:51 PM
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Yeah, I noticed that too. Wondered whether it was folded into this thread, but I'm not sure how that could be done.
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There could be a few reasons for the sticky becoming non adhesive.

The IM thread has slipped to the 2nd page as of late. Maybe the powers that be thought it was time to take the sticky down.
Maybe the OG, the originator, the instigator of said sticky felt his voice was no longer being heard over the BF waves. Maybe he opened his eyes, looked around and didn't like what he saw. Maybe he felt the winds of change a blowing and decided to take down his content. We all fight the good fight for what we deem just and honorable causes. If the fight seems lost, what then?

Who knows why the sticky is gone. Let's try to keep the IM thread on the front page and see if it comes back.
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There could be a few reasons for the sticky becoming non adhesive.

The IM thread has slipped to the 2nd page as of late. Maybe the powers that be thought it was time to take the sticky down.
Maybe the OG, the originator, the instigator of said sticky felt his voice was no longer being heard over the BF waves. Maybe he opened his eyes, looked around and didn't like what he saw. Maybe he felt the winds of change a blowing and decided to take down his content. We all fight the good fight for what we deem just and honorable causes. If the fight seems lost, what then?

Who knows why the sticky is gone. Let's try to keep the IM thread on the front page and see if it comes back.
If the fight seems lost, some of us throw our hands in the air and walk away. Still fewer of us leave the country. But I digress.
I came in here to say my '88 Expert will go on the block in the Fall/Winter. Here in Mexico. I'm selling off half the fleet, and it didn't make the cut. A '80 Trek 414 beat it out. In part due to paint. The 414 paint is exquisite, and a solid color. The Expert is two-tone, and red(I never liked a red bike). And the old Treks just fit me like no other bike I've ever experienced.
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All cleaned, refurbished & advertised for sale today. I think it's a 1987 but, not completely sure. It's a Centurion Master with Shimano 600 groupset.




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I have been Ironman-less since my '88 and '89 Experts went South to fine new homes in October. I DID have this nasty '87 MV out in the barn at the far end of the project queue:
















I decided to do something about it:



Two weeks and $50 later







For the price I don't mind doing a little clean-up work.




Final assembly in the secret underground workshop.




And ready for a test ride!
This project was a lot of firsts for me: first compact crank, first Doubletap system, first outboard bearing BB, first bladed spokes.

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The yellow one and the black one are both sweet!
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Really nice 87 Master. I've missed out on a couple not nearly as nice. I sold my VVGC Red Classic last week and I am without an IM. My son and wife each have one and I am keeping my 84 Turbo. I am trying to convince myself that I am not a collector. And then...I check the local classifieds and see that I just missed an OK red 86 for 80 bucks
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All cleaned, refurbished & advertised for sale today. I think it's a 1987 but, not completely sure. It's a Centurion Master with Shimano 600 groupset.
I had the same bike as my first Ironman, and yes I believe it was a 1987 model. If I was like a foot shorter (I'm 6'4", so maybe 8 inches shorter ) I'd buy that fine example from you, good luck with your sale, looks like it is in fantastic condition.
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All cleaned, refurbished & advertised for sale today. I think it's a 1987 but, not completely sure. It's a Centurion Master with Shimano 600 groupset.




Definitely an '87, and a sweet one at that.
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^^^^^ Yup, an '87. The "7E" in the serial number indicates an early March 1987 build. And agreed, it's an exemplary copy, right down to the bronze-y finish chainrings. Someone's going to be a very happy new member of the Ironman Army.

Re top506 's reboot, if the original paint scheme is Miami Vice, the new one must be Boston Legal.....
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I got it listed on Craigslist, Facebook, & the North FL Bike club for $475. It's the highest priced bike I've ever tried to sell. Wish me luck..........................Be good. Have fun.
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^^^^^ Yup, an '87. The "7E" in the serial number indicates an early March 1987 build.
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​​​​7 is indeed for '87 however I believe the E indicates April.
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Far as I know, E means the fifth fortnight.
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