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10-27-21, 12:23 PM
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10-27-21, 12:23 PM
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3 of my C&V bikes have 42cm bars, which I tolerate because it's part of the aesthetic. But I'm more comfortable with 44s.
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10-27-21, 12:24 PM
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I'm the other way. I get on 42s and feel cramped. 44s always give me that "just right" feel.
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10-27-21, 12:28 PM
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I wonder if I can change my bars in Zwift to 42s for the aero gainz... 
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When I did the rebuild of my Nishiki, I originally built it with the 42s I had in my parts box. It didn't feel right. The Cinelli stem also didn't go low enough to get to my preferred setup. Swapping out for a Nitto stem that would slam, and 44 shallow-drop bars gave me the fit - and look - I like.
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When I did the rebuild of my Nishiki, I originally built it with the 42s I had in my parts box. It didn't feel right. The Cinelli stem also didn't go low enough to get to my preferred setup. Swapping out for a Nitto stem that would slam, and 44 shallow-drop bars gave me the fit - and look - I like.
The Schwinn came with a 40! And a 90mm stem. It was also a smaller frame than I usually ride, so I'd have been REALLY cramped. I put a 130mm stem and a 44cm Highway One bar on it, so it's comfy, if a little racy, with 2cm more bar drop than any of my other bikes. Still comfy for rides as long as 55 miles, but I did notice a bit of lower back soreness the day after.
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10-27-21, 12:55 PM
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They definitely felt... weird at first. The leverage out of the saddle felt totally different. But with enough miles, they felt right and I haven't noticed them since. I'm fairly broad-shouldered, too, so I should be on 44s, according to conventional sizing of a few years back, but there's no impingement of breathing or any of the silly things like that that have been suggested in the past, so I only see negatives in going back to wider bars.
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10-27-21, 01:29 PM
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They definitely felt... weird at first. The leverage out of the saddle felt totally different. But with enough miles, they felt right and I haven't noticed them since. I'm fairly broad-shouldered, too, so I should be on 44s, according to conventional sizing of a few years back, but there's no impingement of breathing or any of the silly things like that that have been suggested in the past, so I only see negatives in going back to wider bars.
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10-27-21, 01:38 PM
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They definitely felt... weird at first. The leverage out of the saddle felt totally different. But with enough miles, they felt right and I haven't noticed them since. I'm fairly broad-shouldered, too, so I should be on 44s, according to conventional sizing of a few years back, but there's no impingement of breathing or any of the silly things like that that have been suggested in the past, so I only see negatives in going back to wider bars.
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...which is pretty much how I feel after this past month of minimal riding and piggy eating.
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10-27-21, 01:43 PM
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I had a Madone that suffered from the "bad bonding adhesive" I think it was a 96, who can remember. ( same bike L.A. rode in shark fin blue) But I bought it used.
One day on a ride it began to feel mushy in back. Sure enough the drop out had pulled out of the chain stay.
I called Trek in Wisconsin, spoke to a rep. He said bring it to the nearest Trek dealer and they would fix it, free. No problem. I was floored. Couldn't believe my ears. I reiterated, not original owner, bought it used. Again, no problem.
So I stripped it down to a bare frame and brought it to the nearest dealer in my area. 10 days later they call me to come get it. I stroll in after work, he says $132.00. $66.00 shipping each way. No one who I ever spoke to about this issue ever said they had been charged anything. I paid it and unwrapped it to find a dime size chip in the paint where the work was done.
I believe the dealer used this as an opertunity to make a few bucks off me. Trek, from what I learned later covers the shipping for warranty and repairs. The local dealer is supposed to just facilitate the handling, as part of their agreement with Trek.
So my problem here is even though I got my frame fixed for free, I got kind of shook down at the local dealer. Did they do anything wrong? Technically no, we never talked about shipping. It was still cheaper than a new frame right. But did I still feel the same elation that the guy at Trek made me feel when he said he would take care of me? Nope, I felt suckered, still do even today over it.
over the years I've spent a lot of money on bike stuff. Do you know how much money I've spent at that shop? 0. Do you know how many people I've told that story to? Everyone that would listen. I wonder if there is a way to calculate how much that $132.00 cost them in the long run. Do they care? Probably not....but I do.
One day on a ride it began to feel mushy in back. Sure enough the drop out had pulled out of the chain stay.
I called Trek in Wisconsin, spoke to a rep. He said bring it to the nearest Trek dealer and they would fix it, free. No problem. I was floored. Couldn't believe my ears. I reiterated, not original owner, bought it used. Again, no problem.
So I stripped it down to a bare frame and brought it to the nearest dealer in my area. 10 days later they call me to come get it. I stroll in after work, he says $132.00. $66.00 shipping each way. No one who I ever spoke to about this issue ever said they had been charged anything. I paid it and unwrapped it to find a dime size chip in the paint where the work was done.
I believe the dealer used this as an opertunity to make a few bucks off me. Trek, from what I learned later covers the shipping for warranty and repairs. The local dealer is supposed to just facilitate the handling, as part of their agreement with Trek.
So my problem here is even though I got my frame fixed for free, I got kind of shook down at the local dealer. Did they do anything wrong? Technically no, we never talked about shipping. It was still cheaper than a new frame right. But did I still feel the same elation that the guy at Trek made me feel when he said he would take care of me? Nope, I felt suckered, still do even today over it.
over the years I've spent a lot of money on bike stuff. Do you know how much money I've spent at that shop? 0. Do you know how many people I've told that story to? Everyone that would listen. I wonder if there is a way to calculate how much that $132.00 cost them in the long run. Do they care? Probably not....but I do.
I kept destroying the Ksyrium wheels and Mavic warrantied them twice. The shop employee charged me a "handling" fee of $10 or $20 which I thought was wrong but the owner always gave me deals so I didn't complain.
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It’s not the route, it’s doing it the morning after a Moderna shot. I was overly optimistic this a.m. and pretty sick right now.
Don’t plan on riding Sunday, @datlas.
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I am most comfortable standing with the 44s on the Seven and always felt awkward standing with the 46 long reach bars on the Gunnar. Might have to do with the different geometry, too, but after practicing standing on the mtb with it's 800mm flat bar the road bikes seem much easier.
10-27-21, 01:53 PM
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It’s not the route, it’s doing it the morning after a Moderna shot. I was overly optimistic this a.m. and pretty sick right now.
Don’t plan on riding Sunday, @datlas.
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10-27-21, 01:54 PM
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Oh, the hu-manatee!
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I am most comfortable standing with the 44s on the Seven and always felt awkward standing with the 46 long reach bars on the Gunnar. Might have to do with the different geometry, too, but after practicing standing on the mtb with it's 800mm flat bar the road bikes seem much easier.
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It’s not the route, it’s doing it the morning after a Moderna shot. I was overly optimistic this a.m. and pretty sick right now.
Don’t plan on riding Sunday, @datlas.
Don’t plan on riding Sunday, @datlas.
No way was I riding the day after shot 3. I slept most of the day.
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I find some bikes just swing like a metronome when I'm out of the saddle, and others seem to need more input. The Battaglin is the former sort, and it also corners like it knows where it's going. It's almost like it's saying, "Don't worry, guy. I know what I'm doing", and doesn't need me to tell it too much. Rides a little rough, however.
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