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You could also put "Sucrose" on the first shirt. The problem with HFCS is not that it's worse for you than sucrose. It's that it's cheaper so it gets put in more stuff.
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Question. If for your career that you have worked your whole life for required you to go to a doctor every 6 months for a check up in order to keep your job, would you be as willing to put a vaccine that didn’t go through all of the normal trials in your body? If you fail a check up you could never do your job again?
Disclosure I was vaccinated, but only becuase I didn’t want it to interfere with my new job.
Disclosure I was vaccinated, but only becuase I didn’t want it to interfere with my new job.
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Question. If for your career that you have worked your whole life for required you to go to a doctor every 6 months for a check up in order to keep your job, would you be as willing to put a vaccine that didn’t go through all of the normal trials in your body? If you fail a check up you could never do your job again?
Disclosure I was vaccinated, but only becuase I didn’t want it to interfere with my new job.
Disclosure I was vaccinated, but only becuase I didn’t want it to interfere with my new job.
To answer your question though, if I thought a vaccine could increase my odds of not dying, then yes I'd give up my career for that. There are lots of ways to make money. If I didn't get the vaccine and died from Covid, then what good is my career?
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It's been an issue since 1950. Another site was chosen in Chile but everyone didn't move. Some stuff can still be done with the 100 inch telescope where Hubble used to work. There is also a solar tower scope and study center and the CHARA array of thermo? scopes which aren't bothered by light pollution.
There is a small museum and a cafe with a large patio/deck which is a great bicycle destination when the roads are open. After climbing thousands of feet there's nothing like a slice of home made apple pie before riding back down. Sometimes I get a PB and J sandwich.
There is a small museum and a cafe with a large patio/deck which is a great bicycle destination when the roads are open. After climbing thousands of feet there's nothing like a slice of home made apple pie before riding back down. Sometimes I get a PB and J sandwich.
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There sure are enough pilots who put alcohol, cocaine, and other stuff through their systems, yet still pass the physicals, so why not a vaccine that has been the subject of arguably the largest clinical trial ever conducted?
To answer your question though, if I thought a vaccine could increase my odds of not dying, then yes I'd give up my career for that. There are lots of ways to make money. If I didn't get the vaccine and died from Covid, then what good is my career?
To answer your question though, if I thought a vaccine could increase my odds of not dying, then yes I'd give up my career for that. There are lots of ways to make money. If I didn't get the vaccine and died from Covid, then what good is my career?
Theres a lawsuit proposed to the FAA that any pilot who has received the vaccine be stripped of their medical, until such test can provide that they are medically sound to continue working.
Hopefully that does not go through but it is still out there and growing strength from what I hear.
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It's been an issue since 1950. Another site was chosen in Chile but everyone didn't move. Some stuff can still be done with the 100 inch telescope where Hubble used to work. There is also a solar tower scope and study center and the CHARA array of thermo? scopes which aren't bothered by light pollution.
There is a small museum and a cafe with a large patio/deck which is a great bicycle destination when the roads are open. After climbing thousands of feet there's nothing like a slice of home made apple pie before riding back down. Sometimes I get a PB and J sandwich.
There is a small museum and a cafe with a large patio/deck which is a great bicycle destination when the roads are open. After climbing thousands of feet there's nothing like a slice of home made apple pie before riding back down. Sometimes I get a PB and J sandwich.
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Theres a lawsuit proposed to the FAA that any pilot who has received the vaccine be stripped of their medical, until such test can provide that they are medically sound to continue working.
Hopefully that does not go through but it is still out there and growing strength from what I hear.
Hopefully that does not go through but it is still out there and growing strength from what I hear.
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Question. If for your career that you have worked your whole life for required you to go to a doctor every 6 months for a check up in order to keep your job, would you be as willing to put a vaccine that didn’t go through all of the normal trials in your body? If you fail a check up you could never do your job again?
Disclosure I was vaccinated, but only becuase I didn’t want it to interfere with my new job.
Disclosure I was vaccinated, but only becuase I didn’t want it to interfere with my new job.
Other vaccines have had longer periods of post-market surveillance (sometimes called a Phase IV clinical trial) because they are older, but these vaccines had the same degree and duration of scrutiny as other vaccines when they were approved.
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Theres a lawsuit proposed to the FAA that any pilot who has received the vaccine be stripped of their medical, until such test can provide that they are medically sound to continue working.
Hopefully that does not go through but it is still out there and growing strength from what I hear.
Hopefully that does not go through but it is still out there and growing strength from what I hear.
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Theres a lawsuit proposed to the FAA that any pilot who has received the vaccine be stripped of their medical, until such test can provide that they are medically sound to continue working.
Hopefully that does not go through but it is still out there and growing strength from what I hear.
Hopefully that does not go through but it is still out there and growing strength from what I hear.
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If Covid has its way, all the anti-vaxers will ultimately go away. Then maybe we won't have to deal with the crazies and stupid people.
Now, if the damn doctors would stop enabling the anti-vaxers. SMH
Now, if the damn doctors would stop enabling the anti-vaxers. SMH
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We also base decisions based on our surroundings and our perceptions. I went back to work right when covid started and didn’t have the luxury of sitting at home. Everything was almost normal in my life that year besides empty airplanes and empty airports. Not once did I get sick nor has anyone in my family gotten sick. I don’t know a single person that has died from covid. The pilots who have had covid are better and back at work.
I do know a 26 year old flight attendant that died from the moderna vaccine. Thats a fact that is in my life that influences my decisions.
I am not anti vax, I don’t tell people not to get Vaxxed. I also don’t tell people to get vaxxed or write them out of my life if they are not.
Its a decision that we all have a right to make.
I don’t know how I feel about the whole situation. I’m not drinking my pee after popping Viagra though. That much I can tell you.
Back to cycling
Belize i’ll be in Guadalajara in 2 weeks. I suggest you start pedaling now and if you can, carry me a bike on your back.
I do know a 26 year old flight attendant that died from the moderna vaccine. Thats a fact that is in my life that influences my decisions.
I am not anti vax, I don’t tell people not to get Vaxxed. I also don’t tell people to get vaxxed or write them out of my life if they are not.
Its a decision that we all have a right to make.
I don’t know how I feel about the whole situation. I’m not drinking my pee after popping Viagra though. That much I can tell you.
Back to cycling
Belize i’ll be in Guadalajara in 2 weeks. I suggest you start pedaling now and if you can, carry me a bike on your back.
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Argument is long term affects, that may lead to a safety of flight issues down the road.
I am not a lawyer or a doctor nor do I pretend to be.
Ill dig up the lawsuit and send it to you though.
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We also base decisions based on our surroundings and our perceptions. I went back to work right when covid started and didn’t have the luxury of sitting at home. Everything was almost normal in my life that year besides empty airplanes and empty airports. Not once did I get sick nor has anyone in my family gotten sick. I don’t know a single person that has died from covid. The pilots who have had covid are better and back at work.
I do know a 26 year old flight attendant that died from the moderna vaccine. Thats a fact that is in my life that influences my decisions.
I am not anti vax, I don’t tell people not to get Vaxxed. I also don’t tell people to get vaxxed or write them out of my life if they are not.
Its a decision that we all have a right to make.
I don’t know how I feel about the whole situation. I’m not drinking my pee after popping Viagra though. That much I can tell you.
Back to cycling
Belize i’ll be in Guadalajara in 2 weeks. I suggest you start pedaling now and if you can, carry me a bike on your back.
I do know a 26 year old flight attendant that died from the moderna vaccine. Thats a fact that is in my life that influences my decisions.
I am not anti vax, I don’t tell people not to get Vaxxed. I also don’t tell people to get vaxxed or write them out of my life if they are not.
Its a decision that we all have a right to make.
I don’t know how I feel about the whole situation. I’m not drinking my pee after popping Viagra though. That much I can tell you.
Back to cycling
Belize i’ll be in Guadalajara in 2 weeks. I suggest you start pedaling now and if you can, carry me a bike on your back.
Isn't this why you bought the Richey?
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There has never been a vaccine with long-term adverse effects. Vaccines injure and kill people, but within weeks at most and these vaccines have been remarkably safe. Well over 90% of military personnel are vaccinated. No one is going to pull them off critical duties. This is a silly, performative, suit, which will never go anywhere. Federal judges are not that stupid.
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mods please temp ban us for arguing about covid instead of riding our bikes, thanks.
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In other news, I have never won anything from strava entered contest. Not once.
Whew*. I’m glad I could get that off my chest.
Whew*. I’m glad I could get that off my chest.
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Nor have I. Once the proprietor of a now defunct but wonderful woolen outdoor clothing company signed onto a sailing web site I frequented and offered to send base layer tops to anyone who was willing to write a review. I still have mine and it’s great!