phughes

Nice find!

tina54

yeah it is very good.

Tourist in MSN

I have met a few cyclists with that tent, they were happy with it.

phughes

I had to look the square footage up since I thought it sounded low. My Passage 1 is 20 sq ft. The Hubba Bubba is 29 sq ft.

polymorphself 

Whoops, typo on my part. 29 indeed.

Pratt

Coons, marmots, mice, et al.

base2 

I'm well aware, thank you.

No body cares.

Obviously.
Thank you.

I wasn't mocking others tent choices. I was mocking your reading into my words your personal emotional baggage.

As if I don't know the details of what I already own & use.

The cost is whatever you want it to be. I use a single carbon fiber staff that is also dual purpose as a very useful walking stick. It is ideal for steep & uneven terrain. A pole-jack & ski-pole work good too. As does a friendly stick by the trail side. Furthermore I have a variety of stakes of various merits for various ground. Sometimes, I bring more than I need & don't even use them all as rocks, sticks, logs, etc prove to be more suitable securement points in a given site. Suluk has the lightest stakes, albeit the most finicky, but there many others. I have a few from just about everybody. Mixing & matching as I see fit. Last I checked, stakes or poles are not part of the tent, but only one component of a shelter system. It only makes sense to not include the unnecessary variables in the single item weight. System weight is up to the individual hiker. Should they include the weight of the log the guy line was attached to, too? Silliness.

Good for you.

How goes the bug situation? No mosquitos where you hike? No ticks? Must be nice.
I like the idea of a tarp & hammock. I really do. I just can't bring myself to forgo the bug refuge a fine mesh screen & the cleanliness a bathtub tarp floor provides.

You do you. There isn't a right way, only compromises based on competing priorities.

phughes

The Warbonnet Blackbird has netting like a tent. You get in and zip up like you do in a tent, it is fully enclosed. Nice setup for someone interested in a hammock, but a hammock isn't for everyone, and they aren't always the lightest setup, despite what some zealots might say. It is a lightweight setup though.

phughes

The Hammock without the tarp so you can see it is fully enclosed like a tent.

dls

I really liked the looks of the Big Agnes Copper Spur Bikepack tent but wanted a rectangular floor so I went with the Nemo Dagger. Great tent although pole segments are a bit longer than BA’s. I see that BA now offers the Wyoming Trail, which, at a glance, appears to check all the boxes.

mev

I have more than one tent and which one I take depends on the trip.

On the small end, I have a basic tube tent. Lightweight and keeps the rain off. Ends are open so no bug protection. I'll take this as my backup on a trip where I might mostly be finding motels but need to also be able to camp along the way.

On the other end, I've had basic two person tents, freestanding with two doors. The Hubba Hubba followed by more than one Quarterdome2. Those I like to be screened in and also on somewhat longer trips or when I expect to spend some more time in my tent.

indyfabz

^^Same^^, but I use the QD2 for flatter trips because it’s a bit heavier. The BA Fly Creek will be used on hillier outings. I like the extra room and two side doors of the former.

stardognine

I'm currently using an REI Quarter Dome T2, which is allegedly a 2 person tent, but that 2nd person better be a female, lol. 😁 I call it barely big enough for myself, sleeping kitty-corner. But it's just about right for me, and it was free, on craigslist. 😎 Someone had the pole assembly put together wrong, and I had to figure it out & reassemble it.

I see there's a Plus version, for folks over 6 feet tall, that I'd like to try. Also, there's a newer version out now, after the original was unavailable to buy, for quite awhile. I haven't looked at it very well yet. 🤔

stardognine

I never realized what a nuisance marmots were, until I got around Sacramento. 🙄 Dang things dig holes everywhere, and you have to be careful of walking, so as not to trip in one & fall. 😟

But the flip side is seeing all the deer, and other friendly critters in the area. One evening not long ago, I saw 32 deer, & lost count. 😲 Must have been a herd, passing through, I don't normally see more than 4 or 5 a day, and that's not every day, lol.

indyfabz

You think they’re bad? Camp somewhere with a large population of Columbia ground squirrels. You could easily twist an ankle. The towne campsite at Waterton Village in AB (Canadian portion of Glacier National Park) was like a mine field.

Tourist in MSN

You beat me to it, I was going to comment on that campground.

staehpj1

Just curious... I really didn't see anyything that I'd call bivy like tent above. Were you referring to the Texsport Saguaro? They list it as "Single Person Personal Bivy Shelter Tent" but seriously it is listed as 44" W x 51" H x 92" D (not that small for a one person tent). That is hardly a bivy. It looks like a fairly typical cheap one person tent and at 4 pounds a pretty heavy one.

I have a hard time imagining that what looks like a typical one person tent earned the moniker "the coffin". Would I be correct in guessing that you were talking about something more like the Eureka Solitaire or other tent that is minimal solo and doesn't allow for sitting up?

Was that a group tour with van support? if so with no weight/bulk penalty the likely choice definitely shifts toward a bit more tent. I might take my Hubba Hubba myself. Then again I have used a bivy sometimes even when car camping for short trips just out of habit if I wasn't going to just sleep in the car.

BTW, I just checked and it looks like the Hubba Hubba is lighter and packs smaller than the Texsport Saguero. So the Saguero is a real dud even as a one person tent with one plus, a sale price of $46. It will get someone on a very tight budget in a tent.

stardognine

Wellyeahbut, marmots ARE ground squirrels, so your Columbians are probably just their cousins, putting on airs with a fancy name. Kinda like the marmots do. 🤔😁

pdlamb

Sounds like they need some pet foxes. With hungry kits.

Kind of like my neighborhood with the dadgum chipmunks this year.

indyfabz

It was really hazardous in the dark while walking to the restrooms. We set up our tent in one of the camp kitchens because of the cold and high wind. There was an RV couple in it who had made a fire in the stove. They showed us where they had to plug up a squirt hole with a segment of a tree limb. A squirrel had burrowed under the wall to get inside to look for food scraps. When they first went in they had to shoo it out.

When I backpacked in the Glacier backcountry they made holes by the food prep areas at the campsite to scavenge dropped food. Smart suckers.

The KOA in St. Mary was another walking mine field.

timdow

Good quality, reasonably light tent at a great price! Score!

GhostRider62

Crawling out of a warm bag to pee is so uncivilized

indyfabz

Whatever it was it was made by Marmot. That was back in '99.

kstephens

That is a great score on tent. I always go for a 2 person when using a bike - or for short overnight backpacking trips). I like to keep may panniers inside with me and I love the extra room - especially sitting up and reading.

I do use a very small one person tarp tent (notch) for most backpacking - use trekking poles for support (no tent poles). I have recently started doing some kayak camping - so finding level ground on river banks/lakes is not always as easy as you would think, but there are plenty of trees - so I am starting to research the hammock option to add to the mix. So I enjoy reading through these threads.

But I would be thrilled finding a MSR hubba hubba for that price.

staehpj1

Ah, probably the Starlight 1P. Pretty small. Definitely, not for everyone.