Alternative to Vello Gravel?
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Alternative to Vello Gravel?
Is there a less expensive version of the Vello Gravel folding bike? I'm looking for something that would be suitable for both paved and gravel bike paths. I don't need an off-road bike, but needs to be heartier than just an urban commuter bike. This will be used recreationally to enjoy local bike paths for 30-45 minute rides. TIA!
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I hesitate to make a recommendation because I feel like I'm not connecting with your needs.
Today's folding bikes are designed for the reality of modern city streets. It seems like
would be well within their capabilities. Beyond that, you're optimally into the realm of bikes with larger than 20" wheels.
I dunno. Maybe look for a Dahon Jetstream on the pre-owned market?
Today's folding bikes are designed for the reality of modern city streets. It seems like
paved and gravel bike paths
I dunno. Maybe look for a Dahon Jetstream on the pre-owned market?
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Gen3 Groove
Anyone with experience with the Gen3 Groove? It folds and is 20 inch like I want. It’s not light, but I really don’t care as long as it fits in the back of my Jeep for longer trips... I wouldn’t be lifting/transporting it regularly. I probably wouldn’t use the battery mode much, really prefer the cardio/exercise aspect. I like the fatter tires as I am looking for a stable/safe ride. And can get for $900 versus the Velo at $2700. Any thoughts??
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Looking at the specs of this Vellobike gravel, it seems to me that the only differences with other models are the Schwalbe Billy Bonkers tires which are in fact BMX tires and the gravel drobar ?
Another folding that works perfectly for your needs is the Birdy with 50mm wide tires but its more expensive than the Vellobike gravel. It has no gravel dropbar but its possible to mount such a gravel dropbar on the Birdy (there was in the past a Birdy equipped with a dropbar).
Another folding that works perfectly for your needs is the Birdy with 50mm wide tires but its more expensive than the Vellobike gravel. It has no gravel dropbar but its possible to mount such a gravel dropbar on the Birdy (there was in the past a Birdy equipped with a dropbar).
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depending how handy you are, you can either buy something like tern verge D9 or P10
or you can build one up from a cheaper second tern or Dahon.
A Dahon Speed or Helios or Mu fitted with rolf wheel (28 spokes) fitted with schwalbe blackjack 47-406 can do well. If you want gravel, I'd go 1x9 with 11-40 cassette. I ride MTB trails with that setup.
If you need some inspiration for drop bar folding and addition of front derailleur: https://www.bikeforums.net/folding-b...type-tt-3.html
If you need inspiration for gravel 20" bike: https://www.bikeforums.net/cyclocros...ild-twist.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/folding-b...retations.html
or you can build one up from a cheaper second tern or Dahon.
A Dahon Speed or Helios or Mu fitted with rolf wheel (28 spokes) fitted with schwalbe blackjack 47-406 can do well. If you want gravel, I'd go 1x9 with 11-40 cassette. I ride MTB trails with that setup.
If you need some inspiration for drop bar folding and addition of front derailleur: https://www.bikeforums.net/folding-b...type-tt-3.html
If you need inspiration for gravel 20" bike: https://www.bikeforums.net/cyclocros...ild-twist.html
https://www.bikeforums.net/folding-b...retations.html
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So you’re looking for dropped bars, more versatile tyres and some wider gearing? There’s not much off the shelf but if you’re happy to do some basic bike mechanics, you can definitely roll your own on a reasonable folder with disc or vee brakes and a cassette hub.
Dropped bars are easiest with a folding bike with a T-shaped handlepost - you’ll need a stem replacement such as an Aber Hallo for a 24.5mm diameter bar, or an equivalent by LitePro or similar for a 31mm diameter bar. If the latter, make sure the 31mm diameter centre extends sufficiently from the centre to meet the “stems” on either side.
You’ll need to think about your braking options - if you’re on vee brakes with dropped bars then Tektro RL520s or similar will be needed to handle the longer cable pull, or otherwise Travel Agents are necessary to convert your usual road brake levers or brifters.
In terms of tyres, I’m fairly sure that the average 20” folder can take a 2” tyre e.g. Schwalbe Big Apples and mudguards comfortably. Have a look at BMX tyres if you want to trade grip for puncture proofness.
If you’re in search of wider gearing and plenty of ground clearance without needing a front derailleur, have a look at Microshift and their nine-speed Advent range, which includes a range of shifters and now a super short rear derailleur that can handle an 11-38T cassette.
For me, an ideal build would probably be a Tern Verge frame, 406 wheels with Kenda Small Block 8 tyres , road disc brakes, a wide gravel bar, and the super short Microshift Advent groupset with brifters from the adult range.
For inspiration, this is what I’ve done to a Tern Link D8:
This is with a medium length rear derailleur and a larger 11-46T cassette, but still on Microshift Advent. Clearance isn’t great for hardcore off-road but seems fine on the gravel paths in my corner of the world. I’m currently using a bar end shifter for simplicity, affordability and the fact that I grew up on downtube shifters on road bikes. Tyres are Schwalbe Big Apples.
Dropped bars are easiest with a folding bike with a T-shaped handlepost - you’ll need a stem replacement such as an Aber Hallo for a 24.5mm diameter bar, or an equivalent by LitePro or similar for a 31mm diameter bar. If the latter, make sure the 31mm diameter centre extends sufficiently from the centre to meet the “stems” on either side.
You’ll need to think about your braking options - if you’re on vee brakes with dropped bars then Tektro RL520s or similar will be needed to handle the longer cable pull, or otherwise Travel Agents are necessary to convert your usual road brake levers or brifters.
In terms of tyres, I’m fairly sure that the average 20” folder can take a 2” tyre e.g. Schwalbe Big Apples and mudguards comfortably. Have a look at BMX tyres if you want to trade grip for puncture proofness.
If you’re in search of wider gearing and plenty of ground clearance without needing a front derailleur, have a look at Microshift and their nine-speed Advent range, which includes a range of shifters and now a super short rear derailleur that can handle an 11-38T cassette.
For me, an ideal build would probably be a Tern Verge frame, 406 wheels with Kenda Small Block 8 tyres , road disc brakes, a wide gravel bar, and the super short Microshift Advent groupset with brifters from the adult range.
For inspiration, this is what I’ve done to a Tern Link D8:
This is with a medium length rear derailleur and a larger 11-46T cassette, but still on Microshift Advent. Clearance isn’t great for hardcore off-road but seems fine on the gravel paths in my corner of the world. I’m currently using a bar end shifter for simplicity, affordability and the fact that I grew up on downtube shifters on road bikes. Tyres are Schwalbe Big Apples.
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Get a Change Bike 650b
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Otherwise, just any folder w/ disc brakes and use wider tires.
In the end, larger wheels with wider tires give better traction and roll over for light trail and gravel riding
Change Bike 650B - Bike Forums
Otherwise, just any folder w/ disc brakes and use wider tires.
In the end, larger wheels with wider tires give better traction and roll over for light trail and gravel riding
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Get a Change Bike 650b
Change Bike 650B - Bike Forums
Otherwise, just any folder w/ disc brakes and use wider tires.
In the end, larger wheels with wider tires give better traction and roll over for light trail and gravel riding
Change Bike 650B - Bike Forums
Otherwise, just any folder w/ disc brakes and use wider tires.
In the end, larger wheels with wider tires give better traction and roll over for light trail and gravel riding
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You’ll want flatbike.com for their US distributor, and they start at about $800 for a frame and $1200 for a bike.
For what you want and what your budget it, you’re probably better off buying something pre-owned and customising it to suit.
For what you want and what your budget it, you’re probably better off buying something pre-owned and customising it to suit.
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I think mine was around $900 for the frame and the my parts were not cheap, getting to around $2.5k for full bike.
You can probably do it cheaper as a full bike (online or from flatbike.com ) or with cheaper parts (a flat bar setup will be cheaper than the gravel bike setup that I did with brifters)
Or maybe even a new frame but 2nd hand parts will keep the cost down.
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Is there a less expensive version of the Vello Gravel folding bike? I'm looking for something that would be suitable for both paved and gravel bike paths. I don't need an off-road bike, but needs to be heartier than just an urban commuter bike. This will be used recreationally to enjoy local bike paths for 30-45 minute rides. TIA!
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The Origai Bull is exactly what you're looking for. It's designed for on road or gravel paths. The weight limit is 300lbs (apparently higher than that, but 300lbs is way more than sufficient). Take a look at it,...it's a solid, well thought out bike. Oh, and the company owner Pinigis is a member. Customer service is top notch. The ONLY reason I haven't purchased one yet is that I own too many bikes currently, and I made a deal w/the Mrs that I'll sell some off, THEN get the Bull.
https://www.origamibicycles.com/product/bull/
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