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Old 08-01-22, 09:46 PM
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I used to go through these double tunnels often. There is rarely any car traffic but one time the fog was so thick I couldn't see the ground or the curbs. We got off and walked. I don't know the rider in the pic.
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I have that George Winston album.
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Originally Posted by DougRNS
I have that George Winston album.
Oh really? I seldom find people who know about him. Maybe I run in the wrong circles. I saw him once at Royce Hall in UCLA. We sat pretty close and it was a great show.
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There is some George Winston in the rjones28 music library.
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I saw him perform at Gammage in the early '80s. No songs by The Doors were played.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Yep - Magic. 32x19 turned out to be the correct chain length and the right gearing for the roads and trails in my area. I’ll ride it again sometime, but right now, I’m distracted by the newer machine.
Lucky! I've never had a bike where a magic ratio was actually something useful.

That's pretty much the same gearing I ran at 30x18. I had sliding dropouts though
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Old 08-02-22, 05:19 AM
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I suspect the Chorus setup does not have the same problem. This seems to be a problem with SHIMANO shifters.

I know the pic looks dirty but that's because I included the black plastic extension on the ferule/cap of the housing when I installed the cable, it was all gooey so for the replacement I got rid of that. I don't think it was a big player in the process, however. I am willing to consider other cables but have very low expectations.

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I had used the lower type end initially but now using the upper one.

We know you're thrifty and all, but use the top end Dura Ace polymer coated cables. That coating does a lot to reduce friction and will have your cables lasting much longer. You could even spray some Teflon dry lube into that end of the cable housing a few times before assembling the shift cable to add a little dry lubrication to the inside of the housing. A wet lube won't function the same and will add drag to your shifting.
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Old 08-02-22, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mvnsnd
We know you're thrifty and all, but use the top end Dura Ace polymer coated cables. That coating does a lot to reduce friction and will have your cables lasting much longer. You could even spray some Teflon dry lube into that end of the cable housing a few times before assembling the shift cable to add a little dry lubrication to the inside of the housing. A wet lube won't function the same and will add drag to your shifting.
I honestly don't recall if that cable is a PTFE coated cable or not, but I have used those fancier cables in the past and I can say for my usage, it does not extend cable life.

I actually do think this is a PTFE coated cable, it's the one that came with the R8000 groupset.
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Originally Posted by t2p
wth
It really did freak me out. Notice the woman in the middle is not carrying a flashlight. Under the conditions at the time, I guess I never saw her. I turned the flash on for the photo but was holding the phone up to my face, so the flash did not reveal her to me.
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My long ago gf is a big George Winston fan .
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Originally Posted by datlas
I suspect the Chorus setup does not have the same problem. This seems to be a problem with SHIMANO shifters.

I know the pic looks dirty but that's because I included the black plastic extension on the ferule/cap of the housing when I installed the cable, it was all gooey so for the replacement I got rid of that. I don't think it was a big player in the process, however. I am willing to consider other cables but have very low expectations.

see below for pics of housing ends:


I had used the lower type end initially but now using the upper one.
Wow! That's No bueno! I poked around a bit a couple people say to use Jagwire slick stainless. It will still happen but at less often interval. My buddy Scott's, Scott did this last year. Bike was only a year old att. Been ok so far since. It's got the 11 speed D/A on it.
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I have a couple bolts that are a challenge to remove so I think I need a bolt extractor. These include the bolts to my cleats and the 4mm crankarm fixing bolts.

I don't see that Park Tools makes a bolt extractor. Any suggestions for a budget bolt extractor for bicycle-sized bolts?? Most of the ones on ScamBay seem to be designed for autos and are too big.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I honestly don't recall if that cable is a PTFE coated cable or not, but I have used those fancier cables in the past and I can say for my usage, it does not extend cable life.

I actually do think this is a PTFE coated cable, it's the one that came with the R8000 groupset.
the problem and solution are painfully obvious

you are riding too often - ride less

or go downtube shifters ... and even better when paired with 7spd or 6spd (double bonus)
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
It really did freak me out. Notice the woman in the middle is not carrying a flashlight. Under the conditions at the time, I guess I never saw her. I turned the flash on for the photo but was holding the phone up to my face, so the flash did not reveal her to me.
next similar series after Walking Dead ... Lost Tunnel People
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Originally Posted by datlas
I have a couple bolts that are a challenge to remove so I think I need a bolt extractor. These include the bolts to my cleats and the 4mm crankarm fixing bolts.

I don't see that Park Tools makes a bolt extractor. Any suggestions for a budget bolt extractor for bicycle-sized bolts?? Most of the ones on ScamBay seem to be designed for autos and are too big.
I use extractors as a last resort. If you do, drilling the right size hole and centering the hole is key to a stuck bolt. Also apply a little heat, especially if there is a threadlocker product on the threads. If a bolt is really stuck, like cross threaded or rusted, an extractor will probably just break.

Are the crank bolts the Shimano style with 2 pinch bolts? Those are probably hardened bolts. Are they stripped? You might be able to pound a bigger Allen wrench in there, maybe an SAE size.
Cleat screws might need a good soaking with a penetrating oil. Are they Allen head or slotted? An impact driver might help if you can borrow one.

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Originally Posted by t2p
the problem and solution are painfully obvious

you are riding too often - ride less

or go downtube shifters ... and even better when paired with 7spd or 6spd (double bonus)
Nah, the real solution is single speed. Ride all you want and very little to go wrong.
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two thumbs up on George Wilson

any CD in particular recommended ?

( yes - still often listen to CD's lol )
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two thumbs up on George Wilson

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( yes - still often listen to CD's lol )
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Originally Posted by datlas
I have a couple bolts that are a challenge to remove so I think I need a bolt extractor. These include the bolts to my cleats and the 4mm crankarm fixing bolts.

I don't see that Park Tools makes a bolt extractor. Any suggestions for a budget bolt extractor for bicycle-sized bolts?? Most of the ones on ScamBay seem to be designed for autos and are too big.
Try a little of PB Blaster first. It should loosen almost any bolt before going to a bolt extractor. Let it do its thing overnight and maybe even a second application to really allow it to work down into the threads.
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