Who Still Makes Lugged Steel Frames & Forks?
11-29-22, 12:04 PM
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Once bikes started getting vertical dropouts, the hubs could also change, and no longer required the brute force to stay in place. The hubs then started using lightweight components/designs. The vertical dropout is where I draw the line between classic and modern when it comes to lugged steel bikes. Not much else has changed.
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My 1979 Centurion Pro Tour has them as well.
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I hadn’t looked at the build thread for years. It was a nice trip down memory lane. Here it is: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...d-edition.html
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Did you get some error about an uninitialized variable? I’ve seen that a couple of times recently, but it doesn’t happen for me with that link.
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11-30-22, 10:39 AM
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This option finally registered in my feeble brain - it is possible to bring an existing vintage frame up to date with braze-ons.
You have to re-paint the frame but you can get all the bits and doodads you want (shifter and water bottle bosses, cable ends and guides, rack mounts,...).
This is a half-way new option. I'm not sure of the cost but it does make an old frame more "custom".
You have to re-paint the frame but you can get all the bits and doodads you want (shifter and water bottle bosses, cable ends and guides, rack mounts,...).
This is a half-way new option. I'm not sure of the cost but it does make an old frame more "custom".
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This, bought one this year.
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At the mall (wow, when was the last time?) this evening for the holiday musical performance of a family member and stumbled across a made-in-USA* lugged steel Shinola Runwell.
https://www.shinola.com/mens/men-s-c...l-bicycle.html
A 'net search indicates a kidney transplant will run ~$500,000, so yes, doesn't cost a kidney.
*Waterford
https://www.shinola.com/mens/men-s-c...l-bicycle.html
A 'net search indicates a kidney transplant will run ~$500,000, so yes, doesn't cost a kidney.
*Waterford
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12-20-22, 12:41 AM
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I had a lot of fun looking over those MERCIAN cycles.
I suppose they are about as close to a Bob Jackson as one can get these days. It is ironic that a guy, a company, with a good, reliable product cannot make a long-term go of it. It is almost as if artisans need patrons or benefactors to survive.
I suppose they are about as close to a Bob Jackson as one can get these days. It is ironic that a guy, a company, with a good, reliable product cannot make a long-term go of it. It is almost as if artisans need patrons or benefactors to survive.
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I've been wanting a Rivendell but lately have been thinking about having a Chapman built. www.chapmancycles.com
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Am I the only one that finds it amazing they still make all those various models, finished in all those outstanding color schemes?
A true KOF, Mercian is the only Brit builder I'd ever add to my collection.
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Two days ago I had the opportunity to visit one of the few Dutch framebuilders, Marten Gerritsen, whose shop goes by the name of 'm-gineering'. He had invited the members of the Dutch Oude Fiets forum for his yearly do: Tubes & Coffee. A casual get-together with bikes and bike enthusiasts. A French Fender Day Kiel-Windeweer style. 
M-gineering started out as an engineering firm, and some of the older projects clearly show those roots:
These days it is importing high-end parts and building frames. Marten builds all sorts of bikes, and his aesthetics are all over the place, but he does do classic as well, with lugs and horizontal top tubes :
I rather like this one. Copper-plated frame, built for the 2009 European Hand-built Bicycle Exhibition:
More pictures of his work can be found in the gallery on his website.
There were also French fenders to be seen, BTW. On this Barra, for instance:
And on this wonderful Jo Routens:
M-gineering started out as an engineering firm, and some of the older projects clearly show those roots:
These days it is importing high-end parts and building frames. Marten builds all sorts of bikes, and his aesthetics are all over the place, but he does do classic as well, with lugs and horizontal top tubes :
I rather like this one. Copper-plated frame, built for the 2009 European Hand-built Bicycle Exhibition:
More pictures of his work can be found in the gallery on his website.
There were also French fenders to be seen, BTW. On this Barra, for instance:
And on this wonderful Jo Routens:
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I've been wanting a Rivendell but lately have been thinking about having a Chapman built. www.chapmancycles.com
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This option finally registered in my feeble brain - it is possible to bring an existing vintage frame up to date with braze-ons.
You have to re-paint the frame but you can get all the bits and doodads you want (shifter and water bottle bosses, cable ends and guides, rack mounts,...).
This is a half-way new option. I'm not sure of the cost but it does make an old frame more "custom".
You have to re-paint the frame but you can get all the bits and doodads you want (shifter and water bottle bosses, cable ends and guides, rack mounts,...).
This is a half-way new option. I'm not sure of the cost but it does make an old frame more "custom".
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A full complement of braze-ons on a frame that doesn't have them would be under $200 - at least that would be my budgetary quote for someone interested. Powder coat can be had for under $200. Shipping back and forth if you don't have someone local to do it for you would be under $100. It does add up, so you'd have to get the frame for cheap. I look for ratty ones with good bones.
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At the mall (wow, when was the last time?) this evening for the holiday musical performance of a family member and stumbled across a made-in-USA* lugged steel Shinola Runwell.
https://www.shinola.com/mens/men-s-c...l-bicycle.html
A 'net search indicates a kidney transplant will run ~$500,000, so yes, doesn't cost a kidney.
*Waterford
https://www.shinola.com/mens/men-s-c...l-bicycle.html
A 'net search indicates a kidney transplant will run ~$500,000, so yes, doesn't cost a kidney.
*Waterford
Maybe one stolen from Uigers or Shining Path concentration camp.
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Two days ago I had the opportunity to visit one of the few Dutch framebuilders, Marten Gerritsen, whose shop goes by the name of 'm-gineering'. He had invited the members of the Dutch Oude Fiets forum for his yearly do: Tubes & Coffee. A casual get-together with bikes and bike enthusiasts. A French Fender Day Kiel-Windeweer style.
M-gineering started out as an engineering firm, and some of the older projects clearly show those roots:
These days it is importing high-end parts and building frames. Marten builds all sorts of bikes, and his aesthetics are all over the place, but he does do classic as well, with lugs and horizontal top tubes :
M-gineering started out as an engineering firm, and some of the older projects clearly show those roots:
These days it is importing high-end parts and building frames. Marten builds all sorts of bikes, and his aesthetics are all over the place, but he does do classic as well, with lugs and horizontal top tubes :
The bike in the front was painted as a learning project at my shop in Niles Michigan. He spent a week with me after which he attended NAHBS. The main color is a gray silver pearl and the panels a candy red.
He has a Johnny Berry made-in-Manchester frame. In 1975, I took a lot of Johnny’s frame making tools home after he passed away. I and my students use some of them to this very day.
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Cinelli has been making the lugged Super Corsa for 72 years now.
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