Anyone else keeping their rim brake frames ?
01-18-23, 11:55 AM
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On my 7 current bikes, 2 have disc brakes and 5 have rim brakes. Does that qualify me as a disc brake person? I'm unsure about the classification rules.
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Perhaps it is up for grabs until they create a "Yelling at Clouds" sub-forum. But if you are suggesting C&V popularity is an indication of the general cycling community, you are making my point. From your previous posts, you feel that a mass-produced 80's Cinelli is the pinnacle of bicycle evolution and any progress since then is marketing BS. Unfortunately, the general cycling community does not agree with you. That said, we all still lust over items we could not afford in our youth and have a sense of achievement when we can finally acquire such an item.
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Oh...and a bike frame hand built by one guy can hardly be considered "mass-produced."
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That's not a fact, just your opinion which doesn't matter to anyone riding a modern bike.
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What defines "classiness"?
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01-18-23, 05:19 PM
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I have two very old bikes that have rim brakes and that is not a problem. For years the only bikes with better brakes were tandems with the weight of two people. Later the advent of mountain bikes made hydraulic disc brakes very attractive. On a standard single person road bike the use of disc brakes is overkill. With mountain bikes the use of disc brakes makes it much easier to use different wheels with no need to reposition the brake calipers.
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It's all I have.
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The difference is huge. On the flats or short down hill ok rim brakes just as good.
I have a gravel bike with several wheel sets of tires of different sizes. It's so easy to just swap wheel set with it. I doubt a rim brake can accommodate 25mm road tire to 50+ gravel tire. If it can it would be a pain to adjust each time.
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Once batch production started in the 70s there were many people involved in the manufacturing of each frame. Tubes were mitred and prepped in batches based on frame size by one or more individuals. Rear triangles were batch made separately. Forks were batch made by another. Luggs were prepped and cleaned up. Main triangle were made in lots based on size. Frames were then joined in another section. Welds were cleaned up by another and cold set for alignment. Finally decals and paint done by another. Each of these workstations would have been stafffed by one or more production workers. The urban myth that the founder or a single artisan was behind these Italian bike boom bikes from the 70s on is nothing but an effective urban legend to create a sense of exclusivity.
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It’s a much tried and true method except for rainy days.
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Once batch production started in the 70s there were many people involved in the manufacturing of each frame. Tubes were mitred and prepped in batches based on frame size by one or more individuals. Rear triangles were batch made separately. Forks were batch made by another. Luggs were prepped and cleaned up. Main triangle were made in lots based on size. Frames were then joined in another section. Welds were cleaned up by another and cold set for alignment. Finally decals and paint done by another. Each of these workstations would have been stafffed by one or more production workers. The urban myth that the founder or a single artisan was behind these Italian bike boom bikes from the 70s on is nothing but an effective urban legend to create a sense of exclusivity.
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I am more inclined to believe a random stranger on the Internet than I am inclined to believe a company’s own marketing rhetoric. I mean, which one of them has a vested interest in getting you to believe this particular story? Besides, factories employ specialization and division of labor because it’s more efficient: it’s not just less costly, but it also results in a better product. Wouldn’t you want your frame painted by someone who specializes in painting frames, for example?
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