Search
Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Bar tape

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-30-23, 11:37 PM
  #1  
Spandex_fairy
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 50
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Bar tape

I noticed that my supacaz tape has worn thru, where the thumb rests, while in the drops. I assume this is normal wear, after a year of riding. Which bar tape would be more robust, yet similar in feel to supacaz?
Spandex_fairy is offline  
Old 01-31-23, 07:57 AM
  #2  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,848
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6939 Post(s)
Liked 10,944 Times in 4,677 Posts
I have not tried Supacaz, but this stuff wears like iron. I get about 8000 miles before it looks too tattered… Though it is still perfectly functional at that point. Tremendous grip, wet or dry.

Last edited by Koyote; 01-31-23 at 10:51 AM.
Koyote is online now  
Old 01-31-23, 10:29 AM
  #3  
SurferRosa
señor miembro
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 6,602

Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3869 Post(s)
Liked 6,460 Times in 3,193 Posts
The best and best looking tape is Fizik classic microfiber.
SurferRosa is offline  
Likes For SurferRosa:
Old 01-31-23, 10:34 AM
  #4  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,848
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6939 Post(s)
Liked 10,944 Times in 4,677 Posts
Originally Posted by SurferRosa
The best and best looking tape is Fizik classic microfiber.
That's a meaningless subjective judgment.
Koyote is online now  
Old 01-31-23, 10:48 AM
  #5  
KerryIrons
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 978
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 504 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 637 Times in 355 Posts
Originally Posted by Spandex_fairy
I noticed that my supacaz tape has worn thru, where the thumb rests, while in the drops. I assume this is normal wear, after a year of riding. Which bar tape would be more robust, yet similar in feel to supacaz?
If I rode 1K miles per year and my bar tape wore out, I would assume it was truly crap. Absent some unusual circumstances, bar tape can last 10s of thousands of miles. There are lots of good brands of bar tape out there and the choice comes down to personal preference. The Fizik bar tape that comes with their saddles lasts about as long as their saddles do - maybe 35K miles. I've had good luck with Profile as well, but again there are lots of good brands.
KerryIrons is online now  
Likes For KerryIrons:
Old 01-31-23, 10:52 AM
  #6  
SurferRosa
señor miembro
 
SurferRosa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 6,602

Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3869 Post(s)
Liked 6,460 Times in 3,193 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote
That's a meaningless subjective judgment.
I'll give you "subjective," but not "meaningless."

Brooks microfiber (not leather) is way too thick. Looks stupid.
SurferRosa is offline  
Likes For SurferRosa:
Old 01-31-23, 10:55 AM
  #7  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,848
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6939 Post(s)
Liked 10,944 Times in 4,677 Posts
Originally Posted by KerryIrons
If I rode 1K miles per year and my bar tape wore out, I would assume it was truly crap. Absent some unusual circumstances, bar tape can last 10s of thousands of miles. There are lots of good brands of bar tape out there and the choice comes down to personal preference. The Fizik bar tape that comes with their saddles lasts about as long as their saddles do - maybe 35K miles. I've had good luck with Profile as well, but again there are lots of good brands.
I've got Fizik bar tape on one of my bikes, and it still looks great after several thousand miles. (I'm not keeping track, so that's a guess.) However, bar tape's lifespan is a pretty subjective thing, I think. I've got friends who keep using tape even when it's tattered, coming loose, and just generally disgusting-looking...But it's "lasting" a long time.

In the grand scheme of cycling expenses, bar tape -- even the pricier ones -- is inexpensive, and fresh tape is a nice way to freshen up a bike's appearance. So mine may not "last" as long as it could.
Koyote is online now  
Old 01-31-23, 10:57 AM
  #8  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,848
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6939 Post(s)
Liked 10,944 Times in 4,677 Posts
Originally Posted by SurferRosa
The best and best looking tape is Fizik classic microfiber.
Originally Posted by SurferRosa
I'll give you "subjective," but not "meaningless."
It's meaningless because (I'm willing to bet) you haven't actually tried every other bar tape on the market....So, your claim that any particular tape is "The best and best looking" holds little merit.

You might just state the reasons why you like Fizik tape. That would be helpful to the OP.

But I agree that Fizik is good stuff. I've got the thickest one (I forget the terminology) on one of my bikes. It's difficult to wrap, but -- once on the bike -- it's quite nice and durable.
Koyote is online now  
Old 01-31-23, 11:09 AM
  #9  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,848
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6939 Post(s)
Liked 10,944 Times in 4,677 Posts
Originally Posted by SurferRosa


Why would I want to try any tape other than Fizik? Please don't answer. It's rhetorical.
So you're stating that you've only used Fizik, and you're convinced it's better than every other bar tape out there?

I can't argue with that 'logic.' Carry on.
Koyote is online now  
Old 01-31-23, 11:21 AM
  #10  
tyrion
Senior Member
 
tyrion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: San Diego, California
Posts: 4,077

Bikes: Velo Orange Piolet

Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2228 Post(s)
Liked 2,011 Times in 972 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote
I have not tried Supacaz, but this stuff wears like iron. I get about 8000 miles before it looks too tattered… Though it is still perfectly functional at that point. Tremendous grip, wet or dry.
How's the adhesive on that Cambium rubber tape? I usually get half way done with taping one side and realize I have the wrong amount of overlap and unwind it and start over, so I don't like strong adhesive.
tyrion is offline  
Old 01-31-23, 11:22 AM
  #11  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,848
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6939 Post(s)
Liked 10,944 Times in 4,677 Posts
Originally Posted by tyrion
How's the adhesive on that Cambium rubber tape? I usually get half way done with taping one side and realize I have the wrong amount of overlap and unwind it and start over, so I don't like strong adhesive.
You'll be fine -- it won't stick too strongly. But forewarning: the tape doesn't really stretch, so it is more challenging to wrap, esp around the levers. But that lack of stretch is part and parcel of why the stuff is soo durable.

Last edited by Koyote; 01-31-23 at 11:33 AM.
Koyote is online now  
Likes For Koyote:
Old 01-31-23, 11:41 AM
  #12  
cyccommute 
Mad bike riding scientist
 
cyccommute's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 27,342

Bikes: Some silver ones, a red one, a black and orange one, and a few titanium ones

Mentioned: 152 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6200 Post(s)
Liked 4,203 Times in 2,358 Posts
Another durable tape is Adarga. Made from US cows in the US. Cheaper than Brooks leather.
__________________
Stuart Black
Plan Epsilon Around Lake Michigan in the era of Covid
Old School…When It Wasn’t Ancient bikepacking
Gold Fever Three days of dirt in Colorado
Pokin' around the Poconos A cold ride around Lake Erie
Dinosaurs in Colorado A mountain bike guide to the Purgatory Canyon dinosaur trackway
Solo Without Pie. The search for pie in the Midwest.
Picking the Scablands. Washington and Oregon, 2005. Pie and spiders on the Columbia River!



cyccommute is offline  
Likes For cyccommute:
Old 01-31-23, 01:42 PM
  #13  
Spandex_fairy
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 50
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 33 Post(s)
Liked 10 Times in 9 Posts
I'll give the fizik a shot; I already have their saddle. I was surprised to see that I wore thru the tape within ~1.5yr/3.5k miles. I think the accelerated wear came from down-shifting, while in the drops, on repeated descents.
Spandex_fairy is offline  
Old 01-31-23, 02:02 PM
  #14  
veganbikes
Clark W. Griswold
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: ,location, location
Posts: 13,467

Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26

Mentioned: 54 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4335 Post(s)
Liked 3,958 Times in 2,646 Posts
Originally Posted by Spandex_fairy
I'll give the fizik a shot; I already have their saddle. I was surprised to see that I wore thru the tape within ~1.5yr/3.5k miles. I think the accelerated wear came from down-shifting, while in the drops, on repeated descents.
I would want to replace it at that point anyway worn or not. Tape soaks in your sweat and it sits on the handlebar all the time and you cannot see what is going on underneath it. It is a good thing to do yearly and you can also replace cables and housing and get better shifting and braking as well.

I have seen a few handlebars that have white powder (corrosion) on them and that is not good and poses a safety risk. Tape is pretty cheap and easy to find at any bike shop just about anywhere and it also can make your bike look really good so it is good to replace regularly for that reason as well.
veganbikes is offline  
Old 01-31-23, 02:50 PM
  #15  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,756

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3492 Post(s)
Liked 2,911 Times in 1,766 Posts
Originally Posted by cyccommute
Another durable tape is Adarga. Made from US cows in the US. Cheaper than Brooks leather.
Doesn't come in white.
smd4 is online now  
Old 01-31-23, 02:56 PM
  #16  
Lombard
Sock Puppet
 
Lombard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2022
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 1,701

Bikes: 2014 Cannondale Synapse Carbon, 2017 Jamis Renegade Exploit and too many others to mention.

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1031 Post(s)
Liked 863 Times in 573 Posts
Originally Posted by KerryIrons
If I rode 1K miles per year and my bar tape wore out, I would assume it was truly crap. Absent some unusual circumstances, bar tape can last 10s of thousands of miles. There are lots of good brands of bar tape out there and the choice comes down to personal preference.
This. If any bar tape only lasted 1K miles, I would never buy that brand again.

Many good brands out there. Personally, I like MSW tape.
Lombard is offline  
Old 01-31-23, 03:28 PM
  #17  
zaje
Newbie
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: Latvia
Posts: 57

Bikes: Ridley XBow

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Liked 22 Times in 17 Posts
My Fizik microtex bondush now has over 6000km and I plan to reuse it on new handlebar which I will swap in couple of weeks (despite of the fact that I have new one on shelf). So my vote goes to Fizik.
zaje is offline  
Likes For zaje:
Old 01-31-23, 03:50 PM
  #18  
drlogik 
Senior Member
 
drlogik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 1,770

Bikes: '87-ish Pinarello Montello; '89 Nishiki Ariel; '85 Raleigh Wyoming, '16 Wabi Special, '16 Wabi Classic, '14 Kona Cinder Cone

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 699 Post(s)
Liked 405 Times in 251 Posts
I'd go a buy another roll of Supacaz. I ride it on two bikes and my primary bike has probably 3,000 miles on it and it's just now starting to wear. I'll go back with another roll of Supacaz. I like it that much.

I've tried Fizik, Brooks leather and a few others but the Supacaz has a great feel and comes with nice aluminum plugs to boot.
drlogik is offline  
Old 01-31-23, 04:33 PM
  #19  
Fahrenheit531 
52psi
 
Fahrenheit531's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 4,014

Bikes: Schwinn Volare ('78); Raleigh Competition GS ('79)

Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 790 Post(s)
Liked 801 Times in 390 Posts
Originally Posted by Koyote
But I agree that Fizik is good stuff. I've got the thickest one (I forget the terminology) on one of my bikes. It's difficult to wrap, but -- once on the bike -- it's quite nice and durable.

On topic: Fizik microfiber is the way to go.
__________________
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera

Last edited by Hermes; 01-31-23 at 10:39 PM. Reason: Rude comment
Fahrenheit531 is offline  
Old 01-31-23, 07:24 PM
  #20  
Koyote
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 7,848
Mentioned: 38 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6939 Post(s)
Liked 10,944 Times in 4,677 Posts
Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Do you think it's "difficult to wrap"?

Maybe he's talking about some thick stuff I don't know about.
Do you wrap your own bars? If so, get some of the Fizik tape that's 3mm thick and try it. It has no stretch. It's very difficult to get it to lay flush around the sti levers. I managed to do it, but it took twice as long as I normally need to wrap a handlebar.
Koyote is online now  
Old 01-31-23, 07:44 PM
  #21  
Fahrenheit531 
52psi
 
Fahrenheit531's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 4,014

Bikes: Schwinn Volare ('78); Raleigh Competition GS ('79)

Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 790 Post(s)
Liked 801 Times in 390 Posts
Originally Posted by SurferRosa
Do you think it's "difficult to wrap"?
Maybe compared to the Cinelli cork/foam tape or similar. But it's nowhere near the nightmare of the Brooks microfiber, and the end result is worth any extra effort.
Clean, smooth, and grippy. No bumpy effect on the overwrap. Basically indestructible. Easy to clean. I don't see a downside, which is why it's all I use now.
__________________
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera

Last edited by Fahrenheit531; 01-31-23 at 07:48 PM.
Fahrenheit531 is offline  
Likes For Fahrenheit531:
Old 01-31-23, 07:50 PM
  #22  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,756

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3492 Post(s)
Liked 2,911 Times in 1,766 Posts
Excellent wrap job F531!
smd4 is online now  
Old 01-31-23, 08:06 PM
  #23  
Fahrenheit531 
52psi
 
Fahrenheit531's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 4,014

Bikes: Schwinn Volare ('78); Raleigh Competition GS ('79)

Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 790 Post(s)
Liked 801 Times in 390 Posts
Originally Posted by smd4
Excellent wrap job F531!
Thanks! A little bit of time and attention makes all the difference.
Practice too, I suppose. I've wrapped more than a few bars since I started into this cycling thing.
__________________
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
Fahrenheit531 is offline  
Old 01-31-23, 08:10 PM
  #24  
smd4
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 5,756

Bikes: 1989 Cinelli Supercorsa

Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3492 Post(s)
Liked 2,911 Times in 1,766 Posts
Originally Posted by Fahrenheit531
Thanks! A little bit of time and attention makes all the difference.
Practice too, I suppose. I've wrapped more than a few bars since I started into this cycling thing.
Definitely all of the above.
smd4 is online now  
Old 01-31-23, 08:35 PM
  #25  
genejockey 
Klaatu..Verata..Necktie?
 
genejockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 17,912

Bikes: Litespeed Ultimate, Ultegra; Canyon Endurace, 105; Battaglin MAX, Chorus; Bianchi 928 Veloce; Ritchey Road Logic, Dura Ace; Cannondale R500 RX100; Schwinn Circuit, Sante; Lotus Supreme, Dura Ace

Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10397 Post(s)
Liked 11,856 Times in 6,071 Posts
I think y'all are talking about Fizik MicroTEX, not MicroFIBER. AFAICT, there is no such animal as the latter.

Bethatasitmay, the Microtex Classic is The Good Stuff. I put on all my bikes, as soon as I'm happy with the lever placement. It is a bit more work to wrap around the hooks than the stretchier Cinelli tape, but well worth the effort.
__________________
"Don't take life so serious-it ain't nohow permanent."

"Everybody's gotta be somewhere." - Eccles
genejockey is offline  
Likes For genejockey:


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.