Electronic vs Mechanical shifting
02-04-23, 05:59 PM
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People with vintage cars feel the same way about carburetors, points, bias ply tires, manual transmissions and am radios. Interesting but obsolete. There is a reason there are no manufactures selling down tube shifting bikes it is a vestige of a time gone by.
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They do since the title of the thread is comparing Electronic vs Mechanical shifting. So modern mechanical non DI2 SL 7900,9000, 9100, 6600, 6700,6800 and 8000 shifting levers are archaic according to your definition??? Very interesting to know...
02-04-23, 06:08 PM
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Yet there are still brands some who are selling frames where you can install down tube shifters. Though shimano doesn't make the down tube sl for 11 or 12 speeds, other brands do and some people use down tube shifters.
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I have one of Campy’s first indexed down tube shifters and it works great after all these years. Still prefer it to friction. But then, I prefer my Campy Gen 1 Ergos to that. Can’t say that my latest and greatest Shimano brifters (manual) are much of an improvement over the Gen 1 Ergos.
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Actual problems solved:
- high pressure clinchers - fussy and expensive tubulars
- indexed shifting - user errors and steep learning curve with friction shifting
- integrated brake/shift levers - must move hands away from brake levers to shift
- carbon frames - corrosion, fatigue failure (and others)
- disk brakes - poor wet weather braking, friction-induced blow offs
- low pressure tubeless tires - pinch flats
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Challenge accepted.
Actual problems solved:
Actual problems solved:
- high pressure clinchers - fussy and expensive tubulars
- indexed shifting - user errors and steep learning curve with friction shifting
- integrated brake/shift levers - must move hands away from brake levers to shift
- carbon frames - corrosion, fatigue failure (and others)
- disk brakes - poor wet weather braking, friction-induced blow offs
- low pressure tubeless tires - pinch flats
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Yes, the problem started when Shimano went to under bar tape routing which was 5700/6700/7900. AFAIK, all the generations after this have the problem. I had the problem on 5700, 5800 and 6800.
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another question related to a new bike i am looking at. for those of you that ride with electronic shifting do you think you would ever or never go back to mechanical? its an option for me that brings up the price a bit and am a bit on the fence about it. my accountant says its in my budget so am leaning toward it. in my reading up about it though it really sounds cool.
02-04-23, 07:38 PM
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Plenty of innovations have solved real problems. A few from memory:
Not on that list:
- high pressure clinchers with hooked rims
- indexed shifting
- integrated brake/shift levers
- carbon fiber for frames, rims, components
- disc brakes
- low pressure tubeless tires
Not on that list:
- electronic shifting
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Friction shifter: "Push the right lever up to shift to a higher gear in back."
You're right, friction shifting is a lot harder.
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Yeah, indexing became all the rage in order to get more newbies into cycling and make it less intimidating to work "all those gears". Electronic shifting just takes it to the next level. Now anyone can use the gears on their bike - no skills or practice necessary. I'm partial to friction shifting myself.
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I thought your original question might put them off as they didn’t qualify, but they just can’t help themselves.
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