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Old 07-18-21, 07:08 PM
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Fender/Mudflap choices?

I'm looking for a set of fenders to fit my '85 Trek 620. I think silver may be the way to go, I have an all black bike with black SKS Bluemel fenders and I think I'd like something a little more colorful on this one.

This is the bike.


Which do you think would look the best?


Also I can fit a little bigger than a 40mm tire, so I'm guessing I'll need a 50mm fender.. But I'm thinking I'd like to stay around 35-38.

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If you stay at a 35mm tire a 45mm fender will give you enough clearance. The issue you will have with that frame and a 50mm fender is that you will have to indent the fender to fit between the chainstays as wells as the fork crown. The 45mm fender should fit both without (much) manipulation.

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https://somervillebikes.wordpress.com/
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Fluted 43's by Hanjo is what I'm leaning towards but would appreciate any insight you might care to share.
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Originally Posted by fender1
If you stay at a 35mm tire a 45mm fender will give you enough clearance. The issue you will have with that frame and a 50mm fender is that you will have to indent the fender to fit between the chainstays as wells as the fork crown. The 45mm fender should fit both without (much) manipulation.

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https://somervillebikes.wordpress.com/
That's what I figured as well, 43's seem to be perfect. And readily available. Thank you for the link. I'll check it out. I would really like to keep the option of going to a 40mil tire, but really need to study up before this purchase it would seem.

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Silver is good and black it too. But, when fenders are the issue, I am partial a color that matches the bike...


It is a bit more work but the results are pretty rewarding...
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MAAAAAN, you aren't kidding! Wow! I was thinking I'd do two blue stripes down the fenders matching, but you went full on Speedvagen, Beautiful work!
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Originally Posted by fender1
If you stay at a 35mm tire a 45mm fender will give you enough clearance. The issue you will have with that frame and a 50mm fender is that you will have to indent the fender to fit between the chainstays as wells as the fork crown. The 45mm fender should fit both without (much) manipulation.

Some good info here:

https://somervillebikes.wordpress.com/
I'd hate to limit myself in tire options to the 30's when I could utilize a 40mm tire. The blog post you shared is an absolute treasure of information, thank you for that.
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I ordered the 50mm

I picked the Velo Orange Zepplin’s in 50mm. I wanted the Honjo’s but couldn’t find the size and style combo anywhere.
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Jasongrace313 we'll be waiting for the pictures when they come in. I like the profile of the Zeppelin fenders, so I'll be looking forward to seeing the pic's. I set up my wife's bike with Velo Orange fenders and they were relatively easy to install and align.

randyjawa is right about the looks, however, for me, the extra work required to paint the fenders to match the frame hasn't been done. I'd like to someday. My fleet of bikes are "good enough" .

Randy has some beautiful bikes.
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I did a painted fender option for this bike when I had some mods done for braze-on center pulls and internal wiring:









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The fluted Honjo 43 look pretty. I have a set of 650B 47 hammered and fluted but never mounted them.
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Originally Posted by Jasongrace313
I'd hate to limit myself in tire options to the 30's when I could utilize a 40mm tire. The blog post you shared is an absolute treasure of information, thank you for that.
Glad the link was helpful.
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Wow... Wow. That bike is absurd. Everything about it.
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Mudflaps are definitely worth considering, too. Plenty of well-designed "full coverage" fenders still allow spray to hit your feet, crankset, and the rider behind you: https://www.renehersecycles.com/why-...es-any-longer/

The Velo-Orange leather mudflaps are sturdy but sort of heavy, so I fashion my own out of 1/16" neoprene rubber sheet.
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45mm is the largest fender you can fit in that frame without bending/cutting them. This will allow you to run 32 or 35mm tires no problem. 38s will be cutting it close with full coverage 45mm fenders.

Go with 45mm instead of 43mm so that you can go up to 35mm tires while still maintaining 10mm clearance.

I'd go for hammered or facetted fenders on that bike.
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Originally Posted by polymorphself
45mm is the largest fender you can fit in that frame without bending/cutting them. This will allow you to run 32 or 35mm tires no problem. 38s will be cutting it close with full coverage 45mm fenders.

Go with 45mm instead of 43mm so that you can go up to 35mm tires while still maintaining 10mm clearance.

I'd go for hammered or facetted fenders on that bike.


These are what I have on the way, the VO Zepplins in 50mm.
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Originally Posted by Jasongrace313

These are what I have on the way, the VO Zepplins in 50mm.
Gonna be awesome! Very curious to see how the 50's fit for you and if you need to make any mods.
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beautiful bike, just low key perfection and class. i was wondering, who makes the fender mount for your edelux, and where can i find one?

cheers, and thanks, rob
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I personally think hammered or smooth would look best.

As for mudflaps; I've tried Gilles Berthoud, which has really nice hardware, and Honjo mudflaps. I'm thinking of putting the latter on all my bikes from now on. They work well and are simply a fraction of the weight.



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I think you'll have a difficult time with the 50mm Zeppelin fenders on a 1985 Trek 620. I did. It's really narrow at the fork crown, you'll either need to be REALLY good about bending the fenders or be really good with cutting them. I was neither and effed them up.

I think the fluted fenders look the best, but they scratch pretty easily and they really show on them. So what did I do? I bought another set of the Honjo fluted fenders...
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Originally Posted by The Golden Boy
I think you'll have a difficult time with the 50mm Zeppelin fenders on a 1985 Trek 620. I did. It's really narrow at the fork crown, you'll either need to be REALLY good about bending the fenders or be really good with cutting them. I was neither and effed them up.

I think the fluted fenders look the best, but they scratch pretty easily and they really show on them. So what did I do? I bought another set of the Honjo fluted fenders...
Man, am I nervous about doing it. I'm in no rush to get them on, even though I really want to see them on. Maybe it would be worth coating them in helicopter tape or something to minimize scratches, that might look strange.
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Originally Posted by JaccoW
I personally think hammered or smooth would look best.

As for mudflaps; I've tried Gilles Berthoud, which has really nice hardware, and Honjo mudflaps. I'm thinking of putting the latter on all my bikes from now on. They work well and are simply a fraction of the weight.



I love the look of the GB mudflaps, thank you for sharing those!
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Front fender radiused as described in the provided link with 1/8" wood blocks cut from the miter saw taped to the tire at 10' o'clock 12 and 2.

The rear fender looks symmetrical to me, at first the front and rear had a bow to them and I dislike the way that looks. It now sits perfectly from what I can see.

This is how it shows to dimple the sides for the crown.

This is his jig

This is the one I made I tried a dowel rod but it was perfectly round and didn't match the shape of my fenders so I tried this axe handle which seems to match it perfectly. If I had calipers I could figure out exactly how recessed this needed to be but I'll just have to play it safe and go slow, repeatedly checking and adjusting.

first I drilled it out on the drill press then shaped it with a rasp, cleaned it with a dremel and then reduced it again with the miter saw which I may need to do again. but the Hickory handle should perform nicely and it will be more of a light repeated tap with a mallet than a smash.
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These are 41mm 700c tires with 52mm fenders, yes there will be some manipulation required to get them in and I could've went smaller but the idea is to be able to run a 35-40mm tire without any issue. I'd hate to get a 42mm fender and be locked into a 32 or 35 when a 40 will fit should I want to.
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We'll see. Either I can get them to work or I can't and I learned something. Either way it's a win.
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