Will this replacement STI shifter suit?
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Will this replacement STI shifter suit?
I'm trying to replace a worn out 9 speed Tiagra right rear shifter on my 12 year old Specialized Tricross Sport, which has cantilever brakes and SLX cassette. The LBS has said it's impossible to the part I need right now, so to look on eBay. It doesn't seem too hard to find second hand Sora, Tiagra or even Ultegra parts locally at a price I'm happy to pay. I just want to check there isn't something I'm missing, like these are newer models that aren't compatible with my drivetrain (perhaps due to pull ratio or something).
This is my bike (can't believe it's still online): https://99spokes.com/en-AU/bikes/spe...s-sport-triple (The cantis are original)
Three possible parts:
- ST-4400
- ST-4500
- ST-6500 6510 9 speed AC73 (without hood)
- or new (but international shipping...): R3000
Are any/all of these compatible? I'd probably pick whichever arrives first, but open to any opinions too.
This is my bike (can't believe it's still online): https://99spokes.com/en-AU/bikes/spe...s-sport-triple (The cantis are original)
Three possible parts:
- ST-4400
- ST-4500
- ST-6500 6510 9 speed AC73 (without hood)
- or new (but international shipping...): R3000
Are any/all of these compatible? I'd probably pick whichever arrives first, but open to any opinions too.
Last edited by stevage; 10-21-21 at 08:26 PM.
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I'm trying to replace a worn out 9 speed Tiagra right rear shifter on my 12 year old Specialized Tricross Sport, which has cantilever brakes and SLX cassette. The LBS has said it's impossible to the part I need right now, so to look on eBay. It doesn't seem too hard to find second hand Sora, Tiagra or even Ultegra parts locally at a price I'm happy to pay. I just want to check there isn't something I'm missing, like these are newer models that aren't compatible with my drivetrain (perhaps due to pull ratio or something).
This is my bike (can't believe it's still online): https://99spokes.com/en-AU/bikes/spe...s-sport-triple (The cantis are original)
Three possible parts:
- ST-4400 ST-4400 and ST-6500/6501/6510 have similar shape. ST-5500/5510 are another option that is very similar to the ST-65xx and also 9 speed.
- ST-4500 Different shape of body.
- ST-6500 6510 9 speed AC73 (without hood)
- or new (but international shipping...): R3000 Different shape of body. Shift cable routes under the handlebar tape. Sora ST-3300 is 8 speed. ST-3400 also has different shape of body, possible similar to ST-4500.
Are any/all of these compatible? I'd probably pick whichever arrives first, but open to any opinions too.
This is my bike (can't believe it's still online): https://99spokes.com/en-AU/bikes/spe...s-sport-triple (The cantis are original)
Three possible parts:
- ST-4400 ST-4400 and ST-6500/6501/6510 have similar shape. ST-5500/5510 are another option that is very similar to the ST-65xx and also 9 speed.
- ST-4500 Different shape of body.
- ST-6500 6510 9 speed AC73 (without hood)
- or new (but international shipping...): R3000 Different shape of body. Shift cable routes under the handlebar tape. Sora ST-3300 is 8 speed. ST-3400 also has different shape of body, possible similar to ST-4500.
Are any/all of these compatible? I'd probably pick whichever arrives first, but open to any opinions too.
If you have the bike year correct should be ST-4500. A direct replacement will have the best "feel" match.
See notes above.
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Awesome, thank you. Should have mentioned the current shifters aren't the original ones (almost nothing is original anymore, just the cantis and front derailleur). Just checked and my current shifters are actually Sora
I'm also not super fussed about matching feel - there's a lot of stuff on this bike which is not perfect anymore, I just want to be able to shift one gear at a time without skipping three sprockets.
I take it the answer is those are all compatible?
I'm also not super fussed about matching feel - there's a lot of stuff on this bike which is not perfect anymore, I just want to be able to shift one gear at a time without skipping three sprockets.
I take it the answer is those are all compatible?
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Awesome, thank you. Should have mentioned the current shifters aren't the original ones (almost nothing is original anymore, just the cantis and front derailleur). Just checked and my current shifters are actually Sora
I'm also not super fussed about matching feel - there's a lot of stuff on this bike which is not perfect anymore, I just want to be able to shift one gear at a time without skipping three sprockets.
I take it the answer is those are all compatible?
I'm also not super fussed about matching feel - there's a lot of stuff on this bike which is not perfect anymore, I just want to be able to shift one gear at a time without skipping three sprockets.
I take it the answer is those are all compatible?
All except the ST-3300 are for 9 speed.
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Check out the Microshift brand shifters which will work with your setup or you could even go to a 10 speed set which would require just a new 10 speed cassette while keeping the same derailleurs. A new 9 speed shifter set can be had for around $140US or less. I noticed AU Ebay has a few single right shifters for sale as well as sets. A few forum members use them and are very happy. Road Drop Bar Shifters | microSHIFT
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Any 9 speed Shimano road shifter is compatible.
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Good luck!
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Three possible parts:
- ST-4400
- ST-4500
- ST-6500 6510 9 speed AC73 (without hood)
- or new (but international shipping...): R3000
- ST-4400
- ST-4500
- ST-6500 6510 9 speed AC73 (without hood)
- or new (but international shipping...): R3000
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Beware the advice "any nine speed shifter is compatible". That is almost certainly true for the shifting mechanism of the STI unit. But not necessarily the braking part. Shimano STI units introduced after 2008 (I think), used a different sort of BRAKE cable pull. Called NSSLR. In essence the mechanical advantage at the lever, in these later models, is less than earlier models. Which is to say the cable moves more. So your brakes may be less effective with later levers.
I made up a bike with Avid BB7 disc brakes, which are designed around the "old" cable pull, I believe. Initially I used current Sora levers, but was never that impressed with the braking. When I changed to "old" Ultegra Nine-Speed there was an immediate and substantial improvement in braking.
EDIT. Just read your second post. My point might still apply, but the opposite way round. It's all to do with matching your levers with your callipers, for optimum braking. Though worth pointing out that plenty of people report using "mismatched" levers and callipers quite happily. By the way, I'm not talking about the mismatch of road and mountain bike braking components. My point is that there are two (at least) Shimano ROAD braking standards.
I made up a bike with Avid BB7 disc brakes, which are designed around the "old" cable pull, I believe. Initially I used current Sora levers, but was never that impressed with the braking. When I changed to "old" Ultegra Nine-Speed there was an immediate and substantial improvement in braking.
EDIT. Just read your second post. My point might still apply, but the opposite way round. It's all to do with matching your levers with your callipers, for optimum braking. Though worth pointing out that plenty of people report using "mismatched" levers and callipers quite happily. By the way, I'm not talking about the mismatch of road and mountain bike braking components. My point is that there are two (at least) Shimano ROAD braking standards.
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Also, don't get an old nine-speed shifter without the hood, thinking "I'll be able to get a new hood". You almost certainly won't. Try searching now for one. For some reason none of the aftermarket hood manufacturers seem to make hoods for 6510s, 5510s, 4500s etc. Your only hope would be to find NOS, and good luck with that. There's quite a long thread somewhere here that I started about this.
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Yes. In fact, any 9 speed MTB shifter is also compatible, for the rear. The cross-compatibility of late 90s/early 00s Shimano nine speed is why I am currently buying up any NOS nine speed triple Shimano stuff I can lay my hands on. I'm currently up to 7 rear derailleurs, 3 front derailleurs, and 5 pairs of STIs. You're right, I may have a problem. But at least I know I'm going to have to cycle some serious mileage, have a lot of crashes, or have a lot of bikes stolen to run out.