Roadies, not on board with assist - prepare to be C&V'd
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08-02-19, 07:49 PM
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Or even the groups under B? Nothing wrong with being out there just riding. That's me. Pretty sure I won't be climbing up the ladder either. I'm ok with that.
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Sooner or later I'm going to rent an ebike for a day to see what the fuss is about.
Somebody told me it's crucial to get all the watts you can, but then said it's silly to use good tires because the motor is doing the work for you. So I don't really think it'll be my thing. I'm going to park where the jeep is, ride it 8 miles, lock it to a tree and go hiking, then ride it back to my car. The shop is ok with this, but merlin thinks I'm giving up.
Somebody told me it's crucial to get all the watts you can, but then said it's silly to use good tires because the motor is doing the work for you. So I don't really think it'll be my thing. I'm going to park where the jeep is, ride it 8 miles, lock it to a tree and go hiking, then ride it back to my car. The shop is ok with this, but merlin thinks I'm giving up.
08-03-19, 01:11 AM
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LMAO! I predicted it would take up to 5 years for e-bikes to be taken for granted as regular bikes and for non assisted bikes to be considered out of date. Now it looks it will only take a year, maybe two at the absolute max.
For the luddites developing calluses and open sores on their fingertips, go ahead and be my guest: bang away. You'll be converted in no time at all, and this thread (and the various others) will only serve as embarrassing testament to your embarrassing 180 a year on out.
For the luddites developing calluses and open sores on their fingertips, go ahead and be my guest: bang away. You'll be converted in no time at all, and this thread (and the various others) will only serve as embarrassing testament to your embarrassing 180 a year on out.
08-03-19, 02:16 AM
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Pfff.
Chalk and cheese.
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anything that gets people out of cars should be celebrated vs damned. personally not a fan of e-bikes but comparing them to non-motorized bicycles is silly.
we don't expect all cyclists to ride the same, why should we expect all cyclists to commute or exercise or adventure the same? many non-motorized cyclists
exhibit the same behaviors towards motorized cyclists as auto drivers do towards non-motorized cyclists. i'd rather have a populace grappling with how best to get to
work (whether ridesharing/light rail/heavy rail/subway/cycling/e-biking/hitching/walking/bussing/scootering/skateboarding/any combo) vs just lcd deferring to driving solo.
we don't expect all cyclists to ride the same, why should we expect all cyclists to commute or exercise or adventure the same? many non-motorized cyclists
exhibit the same behaviors towards motorized cyclists as auto drivers do towards non-motorized cyclists. i'd rather have a populace grappling with how best to get to
work (whether ridesharing/light rail/heavy rail/subway/cycling/e-biking/hitching/walking/bussing/scootering/skateboarding/any combo) vs just lcd deferring to driving solo.
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08-03-19, 05:49 AM
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there's a few months a year where i can hang with an "a" group for a ride or a portion of one. cycling is many things for many people. given the choice between rotating in a fast paceline and stopping to take
a scenic picture-no choice. stopping to take the pic wins every time. but that's just me. yrmv.
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08-05-19, 07:51 PM
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LMAO! I predicted it would take up to 5 years for e-bikes to be taken for granted as regular bikes and for non assisted bikes to be considered out of date. Now it looks it will only take a year, maybe two at the absolute max.
For the luddites developing calluses and open sores on their fingertips, go ahead and be my guest: bang away. You'll be converted in no time at all, and this thread (and the various others) will only serve as embarrassing testament to your embarrassing 180 a year on out.
For the luddites developing calluses and open sores on their fingertips, go ahead and be my guest: bang away. You'll be converted in no time at all, and this thread (and the various others) will only serve as embarrassing testament to your embarrassing 180 a year on out.
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from the hardcore unassisted roadie who ‘might try an ebike’ to get to some remote hiking trailheads. To the old guy who secretly wants to be able to hang at the back of his club ride. Commuters, couples, birdwatchers. Even sleek sexy racers. They’re everywhere! Unassisted is not the hot market for adult bikes.
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I think these were/are the GOAT of e-assist bikes.
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LMAO! I predicted it would take up to 5 years for e-bikes to be taken for granted as regular bikes and for non assisted bikes to be considered out of date. Now it looks it will only take a year, maybe two at the absolute max.
For the luddites developing calluses and open sores on their fingertips, go ahead and be my guest: bang away. You'll be converted in no time at all, and this thread (and the various others) will only serve as embarrassing testament to your embarrassing 180 a year on out.
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Ebikes in general may gain a bigger market share, but even including all disciplines and types of bikes, I'll still bet mechanically unassisted bikes will dominate. I would not bet against the MTB side turning more and more into an e-"sport" though. Can't wait for that mess to unfold, especially WRT trail use and access.
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Ebikes in general may gain a bigger market share, but even including all disciplines and types of bikes, I'll still bet mechanically unassisted bikes will dominate. I would not bet against the MTB side turning more and more into an e-"sport" though. Can't wait for that mess to unfold, especially WRT trail use and access.
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I believe that it means classic and vintage. The original poster was saying that unassisted bikes will all be considered classic & vintage before long.
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In the Seattle/Puget Sound area, the traffic is so gridlocked that lots of people who aren’t what one would consider cyclists, are using ebikes to commute to work.
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Unearned Speed & Experiance
One of my concerns with regards to this is the unearned speed thing. Not in the sense that they don't deserve to go that fast, but in that it didn't take them time to get that fit to go that fast; that time usually provides some learning experience - a bit a bike handling and common sense/courtesy in the process. I've already seen some ebike buffoonery and I suspect that it'll get worse. But, as noodle soup says, I generally avoid the MUPs .
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Unearned Speed & Experiance
One of my concerns with regards to this is the unearned speed thing. Not in the sense that they don't deserve to go that fast, but in that it didn't take them time to get that fit to go that fast; that time usually provides some learning experience - a bit a bike handling and common sense/courtesy in the process. I've already seen some ebike buffoonery and I suspect that it'll get worse. But, as noodle soup says, I generally avoid the MUPs .
10-21-23, 07:36 PM
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It would be disastrous if the tourists started to rent bikes and start flying down Baker's Tank. They are bad enough on the Rec Path and up/down Swam Mountain but at least they don't crash on a regular basis.
