Show us your Pinarello
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 9,579
Bikes: '65 Frejus TDF, '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '89 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8
Mentioned: 73 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1607 Post(s)
Liked 2,216 Times
in
1,103 Posts
Show us your Pinarello
Well BF Pinarello’s are distributed and duplicated in a number of threads but there isn't one specifically dedicated to them. Since I have acquired a couple, I thought it was time to have a focal point thread on the marque.
Let's see if we can pull together some history through links or text with pictures.
If your bike is near original or period correct with original paint and decals, please let us know. You may go nuts on the description if you like but let’s at least include what the year range might be with model or speculate which model and why you think so.
Of course the most valuable link for many of us is are the catalogs listed on Bulgier.
I have two threads on the two bikes shown below. The first is the Tre Crime which was configured with a franken group. Currently it is being stripped for a repaint as described in the thread. It is a 57cm ctc. I have no clue of the year although I suspect it is around a 1987.
This model was created to celebrate a bike designed by Giovanni Battaglin himself, especially for the climb of Tre Cime di Lavaredo in Giro d'Italia in 1981.the first Pinarello with triple Campy cranks modified by Pinarello. The one he road was the top of the line at the time. Although Campagnolo was providing triple cranks for Schwinn, Giovanni modified a Record crank for Battaglin.
The gruppo sold on this bike was Victory as it was the third level down from Montello at the time. My build will be Suntour Superbe Pro below the TT.
My Thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ime-build.html
1981 Giovanni Battaglin ? CICLI PINARELLO S.p.A.
Pinarello steel history
The second is a Montello which I believe is either an ‘88 or ‘89 in the Spumoni paint scheme, 58cm ctc. The assessment is based on the bulgier catalog where the color was first introduced in ‘88. Prior scheme that looks like it is call “Italian Ice” and is not quite the same. This bike is Dura Ace equipped below the TT. The headset is C-Record and the post is American Classic.
The plan for this bike is simply to clean it up with new housings and bar tape. Most of the decals are intact. The paint is faded but not enough to warrant a repaint like the Tre Crime. The saddle is a bit beat up but with a little cleaner, shoe polish and contact cement, it should be good for pictures!
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...-montello.html
Inserting pictures from Flickr in an opening thread is a challenge. See the next one to follow. Pictures in sequence of discussion.
Let's see if we can pull together some history through links or text with pictures.
If your bike is near original or period correct with original paint and decals, please let us know. You may go nuts on the description if you like but let’s at least include what the year range might be with model or speculate which model and why you think so.
Of course the most valuable link for many of us is are the catalogs listed on Bulgier.
I have two threads on the two bikes shown below. The first is the Tre Crime which was configured with a franken group. Currently it is being stripped for a repaint as described in the thread. It is a 57cm ctc. I have no clue of the year although I suspect it is around a 1987.
This model was created to celebrate a bike designed by Giovanni Battaglin himself, especially for the climb of Tre Cime di Lavaredo in Giro d'Italia in 1981.the first Pinarello with triple Campy cranks modified by Pinarello. The one he road was the top of the line at the time. Although Campagnolo was providing triple cranks for Schwinn, Giovanni modified a Record crank for Battaglin.
The gruppo sold on this bike was Victory as it was the third level down from Montello at the time. My build will be Suntour Superbe Pro below the TT.
My Thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...ime-build.html
1981 Giovanni Battaglin ? CICLI PINARELLO S.p.A.
Pinarello steel history
The second is a Montello which I believe is either an ‘88 or ‘89 in the Spumoni paint scheme, 58cm ctc. The assessment is based on the bulgier catalog where the color was first introduced in ‘88. Prior scheme that looks like it is call “Italian Ice” and is not quite the same. This bike is Dura Ace equipped below the TT. The headset is C-Record and the post is American Classic.
The plan for this bike is simply to clean it up with new housings and bar tape. Most of the decals are intact. The paint is faded but not enough to warrant a repaint like the Tre Crime. The saddle is a bit beat up but with a little cleaner, shoe polish and contact cement, it should be good for pictures!
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vi...-montello.html
Inserting pictures from Flickr in an opening thread is a challenge. See the next one to follow. Pictures in sequence of discussion.
#2
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 9,579
Bikes: '65 Frejus TDF, '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '89 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8
Mentioned: 73 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1607 Post(s)
Liked 2,216 Times
in
1,103 Posts
#4
Senior Member
I believe my Pinarello Record is an '83. These were sold as framesets. I bought the frameset earlier this year for super cheap and built it up with Campy Nuovo Record/Record. It is in near perfect condition.
#5
my name is Jim
Early 80's (probably 83). Pantographed components. Paint by CyclArt.
__________________
Flickr Albums
ebay: cicloclassico
70 Pogliaghi ItalCorse, 72 De Rosa, 72 Masi Gran Criterium, 75 Masi Gran Criterium, 77 Melton, 79 Bianchi Super Leggera, 79 Gios Super Record, 81 Picchio Special, 82 Guerciotti Super Record, 82 Colnago Profil CX, 83 Colnago Superissimo, 84 Fuso
Flickr Albums
ebay: cicloclassico
70 Pogliaghi ItalCorse, 72 De Rosa, 72 Masi Gran Criterium, 75 Masi Gran Criterium, 77 Melton, 79 Bianchi Super Leggera, 79 Gios Super Record, 81 Picchio Special, 82 Guerciotti Super Record, 82 Colnago Profil CX, 83 Colnago Superissimo, 84 Fuso
#6
Senior Member
I have a blue 1990 Montello acquired from an ex-racer co-worker for $50 in 2005. It had been crashed in a criterium race and suffered some front end damage but was re-aligned by local builder. There are still some slight bulges in the top and down tubes but still rides great. Maybe a little twitchy but that may be how it handled originally. I'll never know. Here's some before and after pics with stock replacement fork. The original fork was destroyed and is long gone.
Before:
After:
Before:
After:
Last edited by Old Yeller; 06-21-14 at 04:27 PM. Reason: Picture links didn't work
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: York, England after 15 years in Massachusetts
Posts: 600
Bikes: 1 frame and a heap of pieces
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 11 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Here's mine, as bought. The Shimano Tourney shifters work with the Campy everything else. Sadly This one has to be sold as despite all my wanting it not to be, it's too small.
#8
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Berlin
Posts: 20
Bikes: Tommasini Premier Plus, Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra, Peugeot Tourmalet, Pinarello
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
This is my new Pinarello Montello 1992/93. Campagnolo Record (ergopower 1st generation, front and rear derailleurs), Campagnolo Chorus crank, C-Record Delta Brakes (3rd generation), Pinarello pantographed 3ttt stem, Mavic SUP Ceramic wheels, Campagnolo pedals, Selle Italia Turbo saddle...
Last edited by Gabriel123; 06-22-14 at 06:03 PM.
Likes For Gabriel123:
#9
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 9,579
Bikes: '65 Frejus TDF, '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '89 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8
Mentioned: 73 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1607 Post(s)
Liked 2,216 Times
in
1,103 Posts
@Reynolds - YES it qualifies!
@rjhammett - nice example of early Monetllo with only CS chrome!
@BlueDevil63 - Cool paint!
@Old Yeller - Nice job on the clean up!
@rgver - sorry for your loss!
Thanks for your contributions! I know there are more to contribute!
@rjhammett - nice example of early Monetllo with only CS chrome!
@BlueDevil63 - Cool paint!
@Old Yeller - Nice job on the clean up!
@rgver - sorry for your loss!
Thanks for your contributions! I know there are more to contribute!
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 159
Bikes: Gazelle Champion Mondial Super 1987, RIH Super Course 1963
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Pinarello Gavia 1991-1992 with mostly Campagnolo C-Record Century. Bike is in NOS condition.https://www.flickr.com/photos/dutchbiker/sets/
Last edited by Woutervanwijk; 06-23-14 at 08:40 AM.
Likes For 55/Rad:
#13
Senior Member
1988 Pinarello Catena Lusso
I almost have the original decals picked away. Maybe time to search out some replacement decals.
I almost have the original decals picked away. Maybe time to search out some replacement decals.
__________________
I'm happy to say that I own more Steel then Carbon. My Stable! ---> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmVZBep7
I'm happy to say that I own more Steel then Carbon. My Stable! ---> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmVZBep7
#14
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 9,579
Bikes: '65 Frejus TDF, '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '89 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8
Mentioned: 73 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1607 Post(s)
Liked 2,216 Times
in
1,103 Posts
@orangeology - That color scheme is different than in the cataloges.
#15
.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Rocket City, No'ala
Posts: 12,762
Bikes: 2014 Trek Domane 5.2, 1985 Pinarello Treviso, 1990 Gardin Shred, 2006 Bianchi San Jose
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 28 Times
in
13 Posts
I bought this frame off eBay for $100:
Dr. Deltron painted it
I dressed it up
Not a true "Classic and Vintage" as the crankset is too new, the cassette is 7-speed freehub and the brakes are Campagnolo Avanti. The RD is Record but the glare blotted out the lettering.
lots more pics in here: LINK to Pinarello and Acorn handlebar bag pictures
Dr. Deltron painted it
I dressed it up
Not a true "Classic and Vintage" as the crankset is too new, the cassette is 7-speed freehub and the brakes are Campagnolo Avanti. The RD is Record but the glare blotted out the lettering.
lots more pics in here: LINK to Pinarello and Acorn handlebar bag pictures
Likes For bbattle:
#16
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 9,579
Bikes: '65 Frejus TDF, '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '89 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8
Mentioned: 73 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1607 Post(s)
Liked 2,216 Times
in
1,103 Posts
@bbattle - Didn't like white?! Great looking bike! I am torn on the finish of mine. May just have to hang onto it and do it justice in the future. I noticed the rust around a hole on the NDS seat stay of the original pics. I have the same! Seeing that was reassuring!
#17
.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Rocket City, No'ala
Posts: 12,762
Bikes: 2014 Trek Domane 5.2, 1985 Pinarello Treviso, 1990 Gardin Shred, 2006 Bianchi San Jose
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 62 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 28 Times
in
13 Posts
@bbattle - Didn't like white?! Great looking bike! I am torn on the finish of mine. May just have to hang onto it and do it justice in the future. I noticed the rust around a hole on the NDS seat stay of the original pics. I have the same! Seeing that was reassuring!
#18
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 9,579
Bikes: '65 Frejus TDF, '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '89 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8
Mentioned: 73 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1607 Post(s)
Liked 2,216 Times
in
1,103 Posts
OK well the Tre Crime, or the all blue one above, is original and didn't survive time well at all. It is nearly bare at this point. Having some difficulty in getting the rest off.
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NYC+NNJ
Posts: 1,302
Bikes: i don't have a bike. a few frames, forks and some parts. that's all
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 54 Post(s)
Liked 52 Times
in
33 Posts
@orangeology - That color scheme is different than in the cataloges.
and this tri-color gradient on white is rather found on other models, i know.
it was a guess work based on things here and ther as i wasn't able to 'pin-point'.
(ppl also suggested it'd be nearly impossible to do so in the world of mid-low level Pinarello.)
other than color, some specifics—tubing, lug shape, panto style, seat stay cuts, bb, and etc—seemed to match Tre Cime closest.
the quest and conclusion can be found here, in my old post.
the posts also includes some links other forumites suggested.
please suggest, if i need to take a different path to identify it.
btw, status on the build is that: it is yet to find the right handle bar to be completed as a single speed. just can't decide...
#20
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 9,579
Bikes: '65 Frejus TDF, '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '89 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8
Mentioned: 73 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1607 Post(s)
Liked 2,216 Times
in
1,103 Posts
@orangeology - I remember that thread as I found it after aquiring my Tre Crime. At least I think that is what it is. The major difference between it and most of the others is that there absolutly no chorme anywhere on the frame without the GPT on the seat stay caps and a plain BB shell. In fact, it looks like a Cinelli or third party shell with a CS bridge. No question it is a Pin. Just not clear what model or year! I need to take some pictures of the frame after the clean up but here is an as purchased pic of the BB
The fork was not great shape either with a lot of rust but just touching it with a wire brush shows it was not deep
The ST bottle cage mounts are flush
The DT bottle cage mounts are not.
I have no reason to believe this is a repaint either, but who knows. At least your Head Badge was good! Don't know what to do whith this. Maybe keep it with the Patina as a reference!
The bike as purchased was about 22lbs so I think the tubing is of respectable quality, certainly not gas pipe!
The fork was not great shape either with a lot of rust but just touching it with a wire brush shows it was not deep
The ST bottle cage mounts are flush
The DT bottle cage mounts are not.
I have no reason to believe this is a repaint either, but who knows. At least your Head Badge was good! Don't know what to do whith this. Maybe keep it with the Patina as a reference!
The bike as purchased was about 22lbs so I think the tubing is of respectable quality, certainly not gas pipe!
Last edited by SJX426; 06-26-14 at 07:56 AM.
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NYC+NNJ
Posts: 1,302
Bikes: i don't have a bike. a few frames, forks and some parts. that's all
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 54 Post(s)
Liked 52 Times
in
33 Posts
testimonials around flushed bottle cage bosses are also in my earlier post.
seems a pretty common practice from that era of Pinarellero.
mine was all-chromed under the paint. another big reason why its so flaky all over.
it's pretty much look like original paint, don't see any provenance of re-paint. i could be wrong.
good and bad i guess. ppl don't seem to be fans of Pinarello's paint job anyway.
mine still has the tubing sticker on both frame and the fork: Matrix. thin and relatively light, no gaspipe.
din't want to repaint it, at least at the moment. like what it is now.
peel-offs and patinas.
@SJX426
seems a pretty common practice from that era of Pinarellero.
mine was all-chromed under the paint. another big reason why its so flaky all over.
it's pretty much look like original paint, don't see any provenance of re-paint. i could be wrong.
good and bad i guess. ppl don't seem to be fans of Pinarello's paint job anyway.
mine still has the tubing sticker on both frame and the fork: Matrix. thin and relatively light, no gaspipe.
din't want to repaint it, at least at the moment. like what it is now.
peel-offs and patinas.
@SJX426
Last edited by orangeology; 06-26-14 at 08:50 AM.
#23
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Berlin
Posts: 20
Bikes: Tommasini Premier Plus, Eddy Merckx Corsa Extra, Peugeot Tourmalet, Pinarello
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
Pinarello "Montello", Columbus SLX, C Record Delta, Record and Croce d'Aune, Selle Italia, Banesto team water bottle, Continental Grand Prix 4000s II.
#24
Senior Member
Is there a recommended way to remove the last remnants of the PINARELLO on the DT and ST?
And...
What is a good source for replacement decals, or as a friend of mine would remind me that they went on after paint so they are stickers.
OR. Just keep riding it?
__________________
I'm happy to say that I own more Steel then Carbon. My Stable! ---> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmVZBep7
I'm happy to say that I own more Steel then Carbon. My Stable! ---> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmVZBep7
#25
Senior Member
Here's my Pinarello Asolo with a near complete Campag c-record groupset. Recently updated with shimano SPDs.