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Old 10-10-22, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by njkayaker
(It's deliberate. This site doesn't want to be "spammed" from people from that "other" site.)

I'd also send an email to Wahoo (which I would rate as slightly more valuable than "pushing on" the Garmin CSRs).
Good idea. Didn't think about that.
I know less than nothing about all this blue toothed ant plus other stuff but perhaps with these new HR straps that do so much more than transmit HR data, there is too much info coming down the "pipe". I got the simplest of the Wahoo straps but still it might be too much for a 10 or 12 year old watch to make sense of.
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Originally Posted by Classtime
Good idea. Didn't think about that.
I know less than nothing about all this blue toothed ant plus other stuff but perhaps with these new HR straps that do so much more than transmit HR data, there is too much info coming down the "pipe". I got the simplest of the Wahoo straps but still it might be too much for a 10 or 12 year old watch to make sense of.
​​​​​​Bluetooth and ANT+ are two different ways of moving data around wirelessly. That's all you really need to know. A device can do either, both, or neither of them. All Garmins have always supported ANT+, they started supporting Bluetooth also, but only in the last few years. Most smart phones do Bluetooth but only some can do ANT+ so a lot of people want Bluetooth and accessories that support it have been plentiful.
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Originally Posted by Classtime
Good idea. Didn't think about that.
Wahoo, being the "underdog" has a bit more motivation than Garmin to have the information.

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I know less than nothing about all this blue toothed ant plus other stuff but perhaps with these new HR straps that do so much more than transmit HR data, there is too much info coming down the "pipe". I got the simplest of the Wahoo straps but still it might be too much for a 10 or 12 year old watch to make sense of.
Kinda.

The way ANT+ (and BT) work is having "profiles" that describe the properties/data of the sensor. Each class of device has its own profile. These profiles are standard but new ones are created.

This means that just being ANT+ isn't sufficient: the device also has to have the correct profile for the device you are connecting to. This is the piece that "someone else" is missing/not-understanding. He thinks that all HRMs are the same (the webpage you found clearly says they are not all the same).

The Garmin webpage you found strongly suggests that the newer Garmin HRM profiles are different/new. The newer Wahoo HRMs have new features but it's not clear whether they use new profiles or can support old profiles.

If the "head unit" firmware is still being updated, then, often, the head unit can be updated to handle new profiles. Your device's firmware isn't being updated (and hasn't been updated in a long while).

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